Mel Kiper on Monk

dblanch66 · 11-02-2006, 11:28 AM

Mel Kiper Jr was on ESPN radio last night and was asked by the host, Jason Smith what he thought about Curtis Martin being considered for the Hall of Fame. Kiper went off. He said the HoF was a joke and that it was a travesty that Art Monk isn't in already. He said the selection process was no more than a bunch of guys sitting in a room and throwing out names. He mentioned bias, vindictive attitudes and sabotage when sending or preventing players from the Hall. He was extremely upset about Monk and said that the HOF was essentially a joke. It was great to hear him so passionate about our boy Art.

ArtMonkDrillz · 11-02-2006, 11:29 AM

That just made my day a little brighter.

dblanch66 · 11-02-2006, 11:31 AM

He said Lenny P told him how they select the HoF'ers. Sit in a room and throw darts at a list of names.

ArtMonkDrillz · 11-02-2006, 11:32 AM

How did the host respond to the Monk comments?

MTK · 11-02-2006, 11:32 AM

Martin is like the Monk of RBs. A vastly underrated guy who did his job, didn't complain, and had a long and successful career. It is a shame to hear Martin getting pub when Monk continues to get the snub.

ArtMonkDrillz · 11-02-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Martin is like the Monk of RBs. A vastly underrated guy who did his job, didn't complain, and had a long and successful career. It is a shame to hear Martin getting pub when Monk continues to get the snub.

But Martin will benifit from playing more of his career in the internet/fantasy football/NFL Network era. More people probably know about martin and his accomplishments and that's why he's getting the pub now. Plus, he's just now retiring, so that helps.
Just a thought.

SouperMeister · 11-02-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Martin is like the Monk of RBs. A vastly underrated guy who did his job, didn't complain, and had a long and successful career. It is a shame to hear Martin getting pub when Monk continues to get the snub.

Very well said Matty. Neither player ever tooted their own horn, they just showed up, and did their respective jobs very well over many years. That Monk has 3 rings as part of his strong resume makes his snub even a greater travesty.

MTK · 11-02-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

But Martin will benifit from playing more of his career in the internet/fantasy football/NFL Network era. More people probably know about martin and his accomplishments and that's why he's getting the pub now. Plus, he's just now retiring, so that helps.
Just a thought.

Very true.

Back when Monk played we didn't have the internet and the 24/7 in your face media coverage.

But the guys that vote are all old enough to have seen Monk play with their own eyes. That alone should speak for itself.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-02-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Very well said Matty. Neither player ever tooted their own horn, they just showed up, and did their respective jobs very well over many years. That Monk has 3 rings as part of his strong resume makes his snub even a greater travesty.

I think that is the biggest single reason why Monk isn't in the HoF. Unfortunately, self-promoters make the highlight reels and get more than their fair share of praise.

redsk1 · 11-02-2006, 11:45 AM

The HOF is a joke and that's sad. I just can't believe that players like Lynn Swann, the other steeler wr ---can't think of his name, are in the HOF w/ #'s that are not even in the same league as monk's.

FRPLG · 11-02-2006, 11:49 AM

Wow...Kiper made some huge points with me on that. I think the guy gets unfairly ridiculed a lot and this confirms to me that he does have some sense at least.

onlydarksets · 11-02-2006, 11:57 AM

Well, at the rate LT and a couple of others (Alexander, possibly Dunn, maybe Jamal Lewis) are going, Martin might not be in 4th place by the time he's eligible for the HoF. I'll be interested to hear Peter King explain that one if Monk isn't in the Hall by then, since he uses that excuse against Monk.

dmek25 · 11-02-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Wow...Kiper made some huge points with me on that. I think the guy gets unfairly ridiculed a lot and this confirms to me that he does have some sense at least.

i have always had respect for kiper. he studies football, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. he was a draft connoisseur long before it was cool. and generally knows what he is talking about

FRPLG · 11-02-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i have always had respect for kiper. he studies football, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. he was a draft connoisseur long before it was cool. and generally knows what he is talking about

That is basically my feeling but youi hear a lot of people bashing him for some reason. Maybe because he is so opionated. The guy lives and breathes the draft 24/7/365. He literally only does NFL draft prep for the entire year for his job. He knows what he is talking about better than almost anyone alive. Even college scouts don't know as much as he does.

Warpath · 11-02-2006, 01:05 PM

I have always told my wife that WHEN Monk gets in we are going no matter what. He'll get in. Just don't know when.

11-02-2006, 11:28 AM	#1
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 59 Posts: 1,176	Mel Kiper on Monk Mel Kiper Jr was on ESPN radio last night and was asked by the host, Jason Smith what he thought about Curtis Martin being considered for the Hall of Fame. Kiper went off. He said the HoF was a joke and that it was a travesty that Art Monk isn't in already. He said the selection process was no more than a bunch of guys sitting in a room and throwing out names. He mentioned bias, vindictive attitudes and sabotage when sending or preventing players from the Hall. He was extremely upset about Monk and said that the HOF was essentially a joke. It was great to hear him so passionate about our boy Art.

11-02-2006, 11:29 AM	#2
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Mel Kiper on Monk That just made my day a little brighter. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

11-02-2006, 11:31 AM	#3
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 59 Posts: 1,176	Re: Mel Kiper on Monk He said Lenny P told him how they select the HoF'ers. Sit in a room and throw darts at a list of names.

11-02-2006, 11:32 AM	#4
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Mel Kiper on Monk How did the host respond to the Monk comments? __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

11-02-2006, 11:32 AM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Mel Kiper on Monk Martin is like the Monk of RBs. A vastly underrated guy who did his job, didn't complain, and had a long and successful career. It is a shame to hear Martin getting pub when Monk continues to get the snub. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-02-2006, 11:45 AM	#10
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Mel Kiper on Monk The HOF is a joke and that's sad. I just can't believe that players like Lynn Swann, the other steeler wr ---can't think of his name, are in the HOF w/ #'s that are not even in the same league as monk's.

11-02-2006, 11:49 AM	#11
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Mel Kiper on Monk Wow...Kiper made some huge points with me on that. I think the guy gets unfairly ridiculed a lot and this confirms to me that he does have some sense at least.

11-02-2006, 11:57 AM	#12
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: Mel Kiper on Monk Well, at the rate LT and a couple of others (Alexander, possibly Dunn, maybe Jamal Lewis) are going, Martin might not be in 4th place by the time he's eligible for the HoF. I'll be interested to hear Peter King explain that one if Monk isn't in the Hall by then, since he uses that excuse against Monk.

11-02-2006, 01:05 PM	#15
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 49 Posts: 1,762	Re: Mel Kiper on Monk I have always told my wife that WHEN Monk gets in we are going no matter what. He'll get in. Just don't know when.

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