Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher

[Hog1]

Titans owner Bud Adams FAILS to endorse Jeff Fisher past this season....
What a classic Dumb Ass

Titans owner won't endorse keeping Jeff Fisher beyond this season - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com

[SFREDSKIN]

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer. In my opinion they are all average, the only guys for consideration are Holmgren and Dungy. What has Fisher done in all his years in Houston/Tennesse? Shanahan without Elway? Cowher in 14/15 years in Pitt? Gruden without the team Dungy beat? Marty with his many playoff chokes. I want someone that will takes us to the SB and win. I'm sorry but none of these guys do it for me except for Holmgren and Dungy. Are we that desperate that all these guys remind you of Gibbs, Walsh, Belichick? Jack Pardee is probably available.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer. In my opinion they are all average, the only guy for consideration is Holmgren. What has Fisher done in all his years in Houston/Tennesse? Shanahan without Elway? Cowher in 14/15 years in Pitt? Gruden without the team Dungy beat? Marty with his many playoff chokes. I want someone that will takes us to the SB and win. I'm sorry but none of these guys do it for me except for Holmgren. Are we that desperate that all these guys remind you of Gibbs, Walsh, Belichick? I guess so.

Jeff Fisher? How about these stats...

From 99-08 (10 years)

6 times he's won over 10 games/yr
Won 13 games 3 times, 12 once, 11 once

When is the last time we've won 11 games? 10 games?

Fisher is a great coach and I'd choose him above all others. Get him and a young GM and let them do their thing.

[KLHJ2]

GM first, coach second. If we hire a Coach before a GM, then we are back to square 1.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Jeff Fisher? How about these stats...

From 99-08 (10 years)

6 times he's won over 10 games/yr
Won 13 games 3 times, 12 once, 11 once

When is the last time we've won 11 games? 10 games?

Fisher is a great coach and I'd choose him above all others. Get him and a young GM and let them do their thing.

And he has also gone from:

13-3 to 7-9

12-4 to 5-11

13-3 to 0-6 so far this year.

He's like a rollercoaster.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Angry

GM first, coach second. If we hire a Coach before a GM, then we are back to square 1.

Exactly

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer. In my opinion they are all average, the only guys for consideration are Holmgren and Dungy. What has Fisher done in all his years in Houston/Tennesse? Shanahan without Elway? Cowher in 14/15 years in Pitt? Gruden without the team Dungy beat? Marty with his many playoff chokes. I want someone that will takes us to the SB and win. I'm sorry but none of these guys do it for me except for Holmgren and Dungy. Are we that desperate that all these guys remind you of Gibbs, Walsh, Belichick? Jack Pardee is probably available.

Not that I'm backing up these guys or anything, but Shotty aside, you have there six to seven SB appearances and four SB wins between those four guys (feel free to correct me) and you are calling them average? I mean they are no Belichick or Waslh or Gibbs, but I wouldn't call them average. Besides, aside from Gibbs, what HC hired by Snyder has had the resume that these guys have had?

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer. In my opinion they are all average, the only guys for consideration are Holmgren and Dungy. What has Fisher done in all his years in Houston/Tennesse? Shanahan without Elway? Cowher in 14/15 years in Pitt? Gruden without the team Dungy beat? Marty with his many playoff chokes. I want someone that will takes us to the SB and win. I'm sorry but none of these guys do it for me except for Holmgren and Dungy. Are we that desperate that all these guys remind you of Gibbs, Walsh, Belichick? Jack Pardee is probably available.

Tony Dungy is a good football coach however he had Peyton Manning as a QB and Tom Moore as his OC. Who's there coach now? Is he great too? He's undefeated?

TD had a great D in TB and turned that organization around. His offenses were always bad. Why? B/c he didn't have a quarterback. So, i give him credit for turning around that D but I just don't see him as a top tier coach. That being said, i would be happy w/ a TD as our coach.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

And he has also gone from:

13-3 to 7-9

12-4 to 5-11

13-3 to 0-6 so far this year.

He's like a rollercoaster.

As a fan of the Redskins, would you like to win 10+ games a year for 6 out of the next 10 years? 13 games for 3 times in the next ten years?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Not that I'm backing up these guys or anything, but Shotty aside, you have there six to seven SB appearances and four SB wins between those four guys (feel free to correct me) and you are calling them average? I mean they are no Belichick or Waslh or Gibbs, but I wouldn't call them average. Besides, aside from Gibbs, what HC hired by Snyder has had the resume that these guys have had?

Fisher no SB win
Shanahan 2 SB w/ Elway
Gruden 1 SB 1st year in TB (Dungy built that team)
Shottenheimer couldn't even win (ok, maybe ine) a playoff game

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Tony Dungy is a good football coach however he had Peyton Manning as a QB and Tom Moore as his OC. Who's there coach now? Is he great too? He's undefeated?

TD had a great D in TB and turned that organization around. His offenses were always bad. Why? B/c he didn't have a quarterback. So, i give him credit for turning around that D but I just don't see him as a top tier coach. That being said, i would be happy w/ a TD as our coach.

Did he not build TB and Indy? Ok, Polian helped to.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Angry

GM first, coach second. If we hire a Coach before a GM, then we are back to square 1.

+1! Agreed!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by redsk1

As a fan of the Redskins, would you like to win 10+ games a year for 6 out of the next 10 years? 13 games for 3 times in the next ten years?

I want that record and win the SB, not get to the playoffs and choke like Fisher, Shottenheimer. I will give Shanahan and Gruden a pass since they won SB's but that was years ago.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Fisher no SB win
Shanahan 2 SB w/ Elway
Gruden 1 SB 1st year in TB (Dungy built that team)
Shottenheimer couldn't even win (ok, maybe ine) a playoff game

And you could say that Bill Callahan took Gruden's Raiders' to the Superbowl when they played against Tampa Bay. And that Dungy has won a SB with one of the best QB in the NFL (Manning).

No offense, but I think you're stretching your argument here. It's ok for you to say that you wouldn't want these guys to coach the Redskins, but I think you're making a poor argument about these guys being average coaches.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And you could say that Bill Callahan took Gruden's Raiders' to the Superbowl when they played against Tampa Bay. And that Dungy has won a SB with one of the best QB in the NFL (Manning).

No offense, but I think you're stretching your argument here. It's ok for you to say that you wouldn't want these guys to coach the Redskins, but I think you're making a poor argument about these guys being average coaches.

It's like in sports, what have you done for me lately mentality. Most fans in this forum have no patience and want things turned around overnite and think this guys are saviors. I rather take my chance with a young/hungry proven coordinator (not QB coach) than this retreads who have had their chances.