The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Nothing like getting worked up over mock drafts and rumors in January.

C'mon peeps, get it together!

I'm telling you, these fans are getting so hyped up about trading up for RGIII that they are setting themselves up with a huge letdown if/when Shanny doesn't sell the farm for him. You will then see a wave of anger and Shanny bashing the likes that God hasn't even seen.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

And I vehemently disagree since nothing he's done thus far has translated into more wins. Until he does I will continue to judge him by his record.

So you are telling me that this team is no better or worse than last year and the year before?!?

You have to have all the pieces before you can put the puzzle together. Otherwise you spend all that time flipping all the pieces right side up (drafting and FA), putting the boarders together (strengthening and developing mental and physical skills) only to find that your puzzle is incomplete and doesn't look right (can't win games).

We are in a better place than we were two years ago regardless of our record, and if you refuse to see that, then I don't know what to tell you.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm telling you, these fans are getting so hyped up about trading up for RGIII that they are setting themselves up with a huge letdown if/when Shanny doesn't sell the farm for him. You will then see a wave of anger and Shanny bashing the likes that God hasn't even seen.

And the bashing Shanahan will get if we do bet the farm on RG III and he winds up being a bust.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm telling you, these fans are getting so hyped up about trading up for RGIII that they are setting themselves up with a huge letdown if/when Shanny doesn't sell the farm for him. You will then see a wave of anger and Shanny bashing the likes that God hasn't even seen.

Yeah some definitely seem to be setting themselves up to be disappointed. Who knows what Shanny even thinks of RG3 or what his overall plan is for QB?

I for one wouldn't be disappointed if we sat back like last year and picked up extra picks. This team has plenty of holes to fill. A QB isn't going to solve everything overnight.

Cleveland has the extra picks to play with, a move up for them makes more sense than the Skins moving up.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

And the bashing Shanahan will get if we do bet the farm on RG III and he winds up being a bust.

It's a no win situation for him.

[skinsguy]

Here you go Shadowbyte, maybe this will calm your heels a bit:

Mock Drafts 2012: Blackmon falls to Browns at No. 4

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

And the bashing Shanahan will get if we do bet the farm on RG III and he winds up being a bust.

This is exactly what I'm worried about. Jason Campbell, Patrick Ramsey, Gus Frerotte, #5 I forget his name, these were all "can't miss, sure fire pro-bowlers", that were going to lead us to the promised land. I am extremely leery to mortgage the teams future on a QB that IS A SURE FIRE BACK UP DAY 1. He is a true spread QB coming out of college and will not have success day 1 because he NEEDS the time and practice to become a professional, and learn the position and playbook he will be expected to play. Will he become a great QB? Maybe, he certainly displays great athletic skills, and by all accounts is an intelligent and hard working young man, but that doesn't mean he is going to come in and light it up day one. History says that it is more likely to come in and fall flat on his face than the opposite.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

This is exactly what I'm worried about. Jason Campbell, Patrick Ramsey, Gus Frerotte, #5 I forget his name, these were all "can't miss, sure fire pro-bowlers", that were going to lead us to the promised land. I am extremely leery to mortgage the teams future on a QB that IS A SURE FIRE BACK UP DAY 1. He is a true spread QB coming out of college and will not have success day 1 because he NEEDS the time and practice to become a professional, and learn the position and playbook he will be expected to play. Will he become a great QB? Maybe, he certainly displays great athletic skills, and by all accounts is an intelligent and hard working young man, but that doesn't mean he is going to come in and light it up day one. History says that it is more likely to come in and fall flat on his face than the opposite.

well i would like to take the chance, rather than just be ok or a decent team at best forever

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

This is exactly what I'm worried about. Jason Campbell, Patrick Ramsey, Gus Frerotte, #5 I forget his name, these were all "can't miss, sure fire pro-bowlers", that were going to lead us to the promised land. I am extremely leery to mortgage the teams future on a QB that IS A SURE FIRE BACK UP DAY 1. He is a true spread QB coming out of college and will not have success day 1 because he NEEDS the time and practice to become a professional, and learn the position and playbook he will be expected to play. Will he become a great QB? Maybe, he certainly displays great athletic skills, and by all accounts is an intelligent and hard working young man, but that doesn't mean he is going to come in and light it up day one. History says that it is more likely to come in and fall flat on his face than the opposite.

Heath Shuler. I'd wouldn't include Gus Frerotte. He was a seventh rounder who actually played pretty well for the 'skins for the most part. He wasn't expected to be the starter (Heath was.)

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

well i would like to take the chance, rather than just be ok or a decent team at best forever

Fair enough, I too yearn for the day that the Skins return to greatness, and perennial contender status. I am extremely afraid to see a "Ricky Williams type deal" go down for RGIII.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Heath Shuler. I'd wouldn't include Gus Frerotte. He was a seventh rounder who actually played pretty well for the 'skins for the most part. He wasn't expected to be the starter (Heath was.)

Heath Shuler! Man, I was racking my brain for his name. Thanks.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

And I vehemently disagree since nothing he's done thus far has translated into more wins. Until he does I will continue to judge him by his record.

When rebuilding a team you cannot expect instant gratification. We've tried that route before. You're probably the first guy blasting Dan Snyder when we go out and get free agents or mortgage picks for a higher pick/player. What I've seen is an increase in the amount of young talent we have on our roster. Our draft last year was one of the best in the NFL. We had multiple young players contributing to this team.

Kerrigan played well all season, Helu/Royster stepped it up late, Hurt/Neild both did well in some reserve time. Hankerson had one good game then got hurt, but we saw some talent there. I typically give WRs 3 years to start to produce before giving up, so he is ahead of the all-important Daseal schedule!

There seems to be so much hate pointed towards Shanny and I simply don't see it. Our team was bad this season, but I see a lot of positives to build on which is not typically how I see this Redskins team.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

Fair enough, I too yearn for the day that the Skins return to greatness, and perennial contender status. I am extremely afraid to see a "Ricky Williams type deal" go down for RGIII.

yea i agree. but i would also hate to see us sit back and not try and get him and him get drafted and be on highlights for years to come as he helps a young team mature and make the playoffs while we are on here debating again on who we should get at qb. I just think guys like Griffin are far and few between with his accuracy, athletic ability, and most important his mindset. we need him.

[skinsfaninok]

Matt Flynn will be signed March 1

#Hail to the Redskins

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Matt Flynn will be signed March 1

#Hail to the Redskins

How do you figure? Getting franchised?