Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

if Kirk looks like Brady this weekend ill say fine good move. but if he stinks it up just like rg in this system with the morale so low it lowers his stock and demoralizes our other player. if we were gonna switch to cousins why not just finish with rg anyway and have cousins come out the winner of a training camp battle if they felt like he was the better player. more will come to light after sunday because if kirk kills it out there and we win, now its a whole new monster. i think shanahan wants that. im not sure what to think.

I watched when Kirk came in for RG3. Polumbus let somebody blind side Kirk without even slowing the guy down. You know what happened. Kirk looked like Brady, sack fumble!!! Just like Brady.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I think that we have to be careful about an perceived "success" Kirk will have this weekend. I am willing to bet that the running game makes an appearance this weekend.

I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make good sense. Of course we should want Kirk to play well. How could that possibly hurt the franchise? Would his trade value go up too much?

Whether we run the ball more or not, he'll still throw 20+ passes.

[Skins4L]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

That's not entirely true. I do. So do others.

I only want RGIII to sit long enough for the Shanahans to get out of town so that Kyle won't have any more chances to do something stupid to get him reinjured. That is the bottom line.

When RGIII came out of college, I was most excited about the way he threw the long ball. He was one of the best at that that I've ever seen. Second, his arm strength. Third, his athleticism in terms of his ability to avoid the rush and make a potentially negative play into a positive one. Fourth, his great speed and running ability.

I never viewed him as a runner, per se, except on rollouts and occaisional QB draws or read option plays, just to keep the defense honest.

Here's what has happened to him this year: First of all, he's not fully recovered from his knee injury. Second, he has had to deal with very poor pass protection. Third, his receivers are not getting open on a consistent basis.

Also, he is only in his second year and he is learning to become a pocket passer in the NFL. With his intelligence and drive, I don't know how anyone could doubt his ability to learn his trade very well. I think he will come back strong next season.

I see your point. I hope it works out for the better. I really do.

[skinsguy]

Guys, even Tom Brady himself wouldn't look like Tom Brady behind this Swiss cheese offensive line. Although I will say Kirk has a good chance to look good against Atlanta, who I hear doesn't produce much of a pass rush, so this might be Cousins' chance to shine. However, then again, when you have Tyler Polumbus "protecting" your right side, then I bet Atlanta's pass rush gets healthy real quick.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It makes some sense to let Cousins play, you just can't spin it as something you do for Griffin's benefit. The team might be better in the short-term without Griffin trying to play through his struggles. But there's no question it hurts the team long term to sit him.

The person making the decision has no long term future, and only has a short term future. You can put two and two together.

Yes a million times. Its what i keep saying, its the rite decision but the timing is so damn fishy.
Edit: I am not even sure it is the rite thing to do benching Griff, but it is understandable. Just not now - not if you werent concerned in the Seattle game, the Ravens game, or the start of the season.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make good sense. Of course we should want Kirk to play well. How could that possibly hurt the franchise? Would his trade value go up too much?

Whether we run the ball more or not, he'll still throw 20+ passes.

What I mean is if we win, people will point to Cousins as the primary reason why we one as he is the noticeable change, however, the offense recently has not ran Alfred Morris:
Against KC- 12carries--31 yards
NYG-11 carries-26 yards
SF-14 -52
Phil-22-93
It has been nearly a month since we have worked AlMo hard in the running gam.e

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Shanny would have shot that down easily if he wasn't on board.

Exactly. Another thing that is bugging me. Shanny was given complete control. No way he was against the pick. No way he "allowed" Snyder to make the call on RG-3. That is just dumb.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes a million times. Its what i keep saying, its the rite decision but the timing is so damn fishy.

This whole board, and I checked out ES hoping they were different (no luck), is acting out an example of a phenomenon that amuses me. You know when a group of people really hates someone, they treat normal behavior like a mortal sin.

The example I read, and like I've seen in RL, is a group of people sitting at one table in a lunchroom, whispering to each other about someone else sitting at a table other side of the room eating their lunch "Just look at her over there! Eating her food like she owns the place!"

Same phenomena here. Shanny's got a losing record here. This is a very disappointing season. So what's the mortal sin Shanny's committed according to this board? Making a personnel move most people here agree with. (And it's not just us. It's also ES, and all over the media.)

SMH.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

What I mean is if we win, people will point to Cousins as the primary reason why we one as he is the noticeable change, however, the offense recently has not ran Alfred Morris:
Against KC- 12carries--31 yards
NYG-11 carries-26 yards
SF-14 -52
Phil-22-93
It has been nearly a month since we have worked AlMo hard in the running gam.e

I see. Good point!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

This whole board, and I checked out ES hoping they were different (no luck), is acting out an example of a phenomenon that amuses me. You know when a group of people really hates someone, they treat normal behavior like a mortal sin.

The example I read, and like I've seen in RL, is a group of people sitting at one table in a lunchroom, whispering to each other about someone else sitting at a table other side of the room eating their lunch "Just look at her over there! Eating her food like she owns the place!"

Same phenomena here. Shanny's got a losing record here. This is a very disappointing season. So what's the mortal sin Shanny's committed according to this board? Making a personnel move most people here agree with. (And it's not just us. It's also ES, and all over the media.)

SMH.

So, you think that Griff's health was not in question in the Seattle game, or the Ravens game, or in weeks one through 6, but now it is a good time to "preserve" him?
Leave all the weird lunch room banter examples out of it and just answer the question - lol.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

What I mean is if we win, people will point to Cousins as the primary reason why we one as he is the noticeable change, however, the offense recently has not ran Alfred Morris:
Against KC- 12carries--31 yards
NYG-11 carries-26 yards
SF-14 -52
Phil-22-93
It has been nearly a month since we have worked AlMo hard in the running gam.e

I pointed this out awhile back in another thread. It's like we're slowly phasing out the running game. Alfmo has had less than 15 touches in the last 3 games. And they don't do anything (i.e. play action) to try to open up the run game.

And why do they keep trying to have Alfmo run east-west a la the pitch play? The man's a brusier, let him run straight up the middle. That pitch play works maybe twice a half. Yet we call the damn thing about once a drive.

Sounds like a whole of a poor game planning going on.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I pointed this out awhile back in another thread. It's like we're slowly phasing out the running game. Alfmo has had less than 15 touches in the last 3 games. And they don't do anything (i.e. play action) to try to open up the run game.

And why do they keep trying to have Alfmo run east-west a la the pitch play? The man's a brusier, let him run straight up the middle. That pitch play works maybe twice a half. Yet we call the damn thing about once a drive.

Sounds like a whole of a poor game planning going on.

Honest to god, its the worse game planning ive ever seen in my life. Its a total shit show

[BaltimoreSkins]

In the SF game he was running ok too (about 3.7 per a carry) certainly enough to extend drives and decrease passing o-line exposure. Plus it keeps the SF O off the field.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

This whole board, and I checked out ES hoping they were different (no luck), is acting out an example of a phenomenon that amuses me. You know when a group of people really hates someone, they treat normal behavior like a mortal sin.

The example I read, and like I've seen in RL, is a group of people sitting at one table in a lunchroom, whispering to each other about someone else sitting at a table other side of the room eating their lunch "Just look at her over there! Eating her food like she owns the place!"

Same phenomena here. Shanny's got a losing record here. This is a very disappointing season. So what's the mortal sin Shanny's committed according to this board? Making a personnel move most people here agree with. (And it's not just us. It's also ES, and all over the media.)

SMH.

Some people agree with it, but that doesn't mean they are backing Shanahan's rationale. Some people just want to see Cousins, or they think RG should be benched for performance, or they don't want to risk him getting hurt.

[BaltimoreSkins]

On the pine conversation:

LeRib: Don't worry Robert you still get to enjoy the post game spread even if you don't suit up. That is some good eats.
Haynesworth: Yeah that is why I am still on the payroll.
Spurrier: Keeps me coming back that's for sure.
RG3: Who are you guys?