Roger Goodell says NFL considering eliminating extra point

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

People scoffed at the idea of adding the 2 pt conversion years ago too.

Fact is people hate change even when it's for the better.

I don't see how changing up the most boring play in the game is a bad thing at all.

I agree. Add some excitement to it. I like what Goodell is trying to do here.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

People scoffed at the idea of adding the 2 pt conversion years ago too.

Fact is people hate change even when it's for the better.

I don't see how changing up the most boring play in the game is a bad thing at all.

The 2 point conversion was in college ball so it wasnt like adding it was a radical concept. I liked when they added the 2pt conversion but this isnt change for the better.

The kick off is the most boring play in the game, not the PAT.

[Alvin Walton]

Eliminate the two point conversion and the kicking element.
Put the ball on the 10 for pass or run one point conversion.
That would make or break a lot of games.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Crusty says eliminate Roger Goodell.

Now there's a suggestion I could live with.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I'm an old timer and hate all the changes made by Goodell, he is ruining the best American sport. If it ain't broken...

Unfortunately, Goodell goes by a different version: if it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is.

[Paintrain]

I voted 'yes' they should consider eliminating the XP but I'd rather see them modify it by making it an actual play. Give teams the option to kick from the 18 yd line (35 yd FG) for one or run a play from the 3 yd line for two. Adds an element of strategy to each scoring play and execution so that it's not automatic.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No one could objectively be against eliminating the PAT. It is literally useless in terms of entertainment. Being against it would simply be a grumpy old man type fear of change.

Why would anyone support eliminating something that's so much a part of the game we love? Shouldn't preserving football be more important than your being merely "entertained"? Perhaps you should examine your priorities outside football if you support destroying it by doing away with an integral part of the game, that takes very little time, because it doesn't "entertain" you. Oh, how I wish I were alive when the Redskins were killing the 80s and early 90s, and John Madden's Raiders were still terrorizing opponents. That was real football. And every year, Roger "F****** Idiot" Goodell carries the NFL away from that particular game more, whether by practically eliminating the kickoff, to limiting contact by RBs, to limiting huge hits by handing out fines.

And the PAT not useless; 2003 Saints and John Carney ring a bell with anyone? I believe that Saints fans everywhere remember that PAT very much.

[skinsguy]

I don't know why people keep calling the kick-off from the 35 yard line a new rule. It's not a new rule. It's simply a rule that was changed back from what it was before.

Anyway, as for the change on the PAT - I'm all for change. If you're going to leave the PAT where it's at, might as well just take on the seventh point when the TD is scored. It's practically the same thing. There's no drama or excitement on the PAT. It's impossible to block.

At least, the PAT needs to be moved back enough to where it's not automatic. It needs to be earned. I'd say make it a 35 yard attempt. At least not less than a 30 yard attempt. Pretty much everything under 30 is automatic. That would put some drama in the PAT, and I don't think it would be such a change that those who hate change for change sake would be too upset over that. That way, if there happens to be an offensive penalty on the PAT, then it really puts them in danger of missing the point. I'd say either that or just go for two after every TD.

And, while someone mentioned kick-offs, why not actually award 3 points to those kickers who manage to kick the ball through the uprights on the kick off. It does happen (maybe not often, but it does) and I think the kicker should be award for being able to do that. The other team would still get the ball placed at the 20 as if it were a touchback, but the kicker would get awarded for the kick-off going through the upright. Think about this: A team literally has a chance to go up by two scores before giving the ball back to the other team. That, then forces the other team to really step it up a notch if they're going to get back in the game.

[MTK]

People act like Goodell is the only commish to have rule changes go into effect under his regime.

The game is constantly evolving. Always has, always will.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No one could objectively be against eliminating the PAT. It is literally useless in terms of entertainment. Being against it would simply be a grumpy old man type fear of change.

Get off my lawn!!!!

i think they need to change the way penalties by the defense on a PAT are tacked onto the kickoff since most kickoffs are already touchbacks, letting the kicker kick from the 40 instead of the 25 really doesnt change anything. or do they kick from the 30 now? whatever.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

And the PAT not useless; 2003 Saints and John Carney ring a bell with anyone? I believe that Saints fans everywhere remember that PAT very much.

or romo fumbling away the hold ... maybe that was a fg.

either way, its part of the game.

does an added excitement outweigh changing the game?

i see it as taking away some excitement as it just takes away a football play.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I voted 'yes' they should consider eliminating the XP but I'd rather see them modify it by making it an actual play. Give teams the option to kick from the 18 yd line (35 yd FG) for one or run a play from the 3 yd line for two. Adds an element of strategy to each scoring play and execution so that it's not automatic.

My bet is 98.4% of the time teams would opt for the easy FG rather than the play. IMO there wouldnt be any more strategy in a play/kick option than there is now.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I voted 'yes' they should consider eliminating the XP but I'd rather see them modify it by making it an actual play. Give teams the option to kick from the 18 yd line (35 yd FG) for one or run a play from the 3 yd line for two. Adds an element of strategy to each scoring play and execution so that it's not automatic.

I agree with this. Make it more competitive, but dont take the foot out of football.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by irish

My bet is 98.4% of the time teams would opt for the easy FG rather than the play. IMO there wouldnt be any more strategy in a play/kick option than there is now.

A 35 yarder isn't a gimme FG like the XP is now. Now windy/wet conditions potentially could be a factor in deciding to kick or go for two. What if your kicker gets injured in game? Sure a punter can knock it in from 19 yds but how about from 35?

*Update* Only 11 of 34 kickers who attempted a FG this past season were perfect from less than 39 yards. Not a sure thing every time.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Why would anyone support eliminating something that's so much a part of the game we love? Shouldn't preserving football be more important than your being merely "entertained"? Perhaps you should examine your priorities outside football if you support destroying it by doing away with an integral part of the game, that takes very little time, because it doesn't "entertain" you. Oh, how I wish I were alive when the Redskins were killing the 80s and early 90s, and John Madden's Raiders were still terrorizing opponents. That was real football. And every year, Roger "F****** Idiot" Goodell carries the NFL away from that particular game more, whether by practically eliminating the kickoff, to limiting contact by RBs, to limiting huge hits by handing out fines.

And the PAT not useless; 2003 Saints and John Carney ring a bell with anyone? I believe that Saints fans everywhere remember that PAT very much.

Taking things a little too seriously huh?


I'm sorry I was under the mistaken impression the point of the entire sport was to entertain the fans.