The everything Gruden thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Reasons why key players have obviously regressed that don't fall on the offensive HC, let's hear em??

Have we really regressed though? Last year the offense was ranked 23rd in points and 9th in yards. This year we're 22nd and 11th. Mostly the same players, slightly different schemes, same results. Again heading for a top 3 pick.

[Bucket]

I cant really blame Gruden. He needs to be accountable for some things, but it's the same staff, same players just about. Same outcome..

Something else needs to change up top, or their direction needs to be different.

I do know that McCoy got murdered today as well, and still put up over 350+ yards with 3 TD's.

Defense is banged up beyond belief right now.

I don't think Gruden deserves all the blame here.

We also have to remember that McCoy has had 12 days of reps with the first team offense. If he had more, maybe he comes out faster when we get thoe two turnovers? Who the fuck knows..

I do know that we have some good building blocks, but it only takes one to two bad blocks to have the whole thing crumbling down.

[Evilgrin]

Should be renamed the Snyder thread. Snyder hires BA, Snyder doesn't invest in scouting. Snyder created special rules for Griffin. It's like going after the dealer on the street, and constantly ignoring where the supply comes from. The players made dozens of mental mistakes today. Some of that is coaching(still his fault), but some of it is just picking better players.

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Have we really regressed though? Last year the offense was ranked 23rd in points and 9th in yards. This year we're 22nd and 11th. Mostly the same players, slightly different schemes, same results. Again heading for a top 3 pick.

Added a truly elite WR to get the same overall results. The only way that makes sense is if other key players regress.

I guess we could just keep adding talent to Grudens offense to get better results, but isn't that what Cincy did?? Elite oline. Best WR in pro football with other weapons and a solid game manager in Dalton, but Cincy's offense still withered in big games. Plus that team had a truly elite defense that put Grudens offense in position to win games.

I just don't get it, why Gruden if not for the old boys connection like someone else said here? That connection got him a fair shot, he's done nothing with it. It's not personal, but there's quality HCs out there every year who get results.