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Old 01-17-2015, 08:29 PM   #46
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Now there will be a Combine for veteran free agents on March 22.

NFL to hold combine for veteran free agents - ESPN
......waste of time .
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:13 AM   #47
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The reality of the NFL is that we will need to dabble in Free Agency. If you listened to Scot, he drafts based on BPA, not Need.

That means, to fill Needs, we'll have to use Free Agency.

Also, we have several current roster members (at least 11) who will be UFA's:
Orakpo, Polumbus, Helu, J Jenkins, Meriweather, Hankerson, Paul, Moss, McCoy, Clark & Biggers to name a few.

So, we draft BPA and hope that we get all of those positions filled? Seriously?

I think it's clear that we will need to have some involvement in Free Agency.
Avoiding Free Agency is as silly as Avoiding draft picks.

Good teams strike a balance....hopefully, we become a good team soon.
Orakpo - Injured, as usual
Polumbus - Demoted
Helu - Backup
J Jenkins - Bust
Meriweather - Concussed or suspended
Hankerson - Contributed nothing
Paul - Special Teamer
Moss - Not in Skins plans
McCoy - Noodle armed stopgap
Clark - Done
Biggers - Sucks

These players need to be replaced via FA? Uh, no. They could all leave and not be missed on the field.
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Old 01-18-2015, 04:35 AM   #48
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Orakpo - Injured, as usual
Polumbus - Demoted
Helu - Backup
J Jenkins - Bust
Meriweather - Concussed or suspended
Hankerson - Contributed nothing
Paul - Special Teamer
Moss - Not in Skins plans
McCoy - Noodle armed stopgap
Clark - Done
Biggers - Sucks

These players need to be replaced via FA? Uh, no. They could all leave and not be missed on the field.
I agree, and further if the team decided that one or two, like Helu or Paul, did fill a need why not resign your own instead?
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:07 AM   #49
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Let them all test the market and come back before even considering to offer.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:21 AM   #50
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I agree, and further if the team decided that one or two, like Helu or Paul, did fill a need why not resign your own instead?
" Why not resign your own" ? ahhh because the team was 4-12 and you can do better - Paul is a special teams player masquerading as a TE - Helu is an average 3rd down back
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Old 01-18-2015, 10:50 AM   #51
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Helu hasn't done much in 2 years. Paul had 1 good game last yr.
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:29 AM   #52
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Helu and Paul are perhaps worth keeping if looked at purely as depth players rather than starters.

Depth has been an issue with this team for years.
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:36 AM   #53
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Re: 2015 Free Agents

I for one hope we keep Helu. Especially on 3rd down he's shown to be one of the more reliable pass catching rbs in the league. Paul is hit or miss, depends on the price. He shows flashes when called upon, but I also like some of the young talent coming out in the draft this year who can both block and be a threat in the passing game which would allow us to not worry about wasting two roster spaces on people who do one and not the other. Don't really want to keep any of the other free agents we have.
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:39 AM   #54
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" Why not resign your own" ? ahhh because the team was 4-12 and you can do better - Paul is a special teams player masquerading as a TE - Helu is an average 3rd down back
I think both had decent backup years, Helu certainly filled a role. If you are saying go out and get someone else for comparable dollars, sure bring guys in for competition as well as some undrafted rookies. BUT if you are saying we need to spend much more to upgrade those positions I say there is value to the guys who have solid chemistry, have effective if not standout ability and our FA dollars are better spent elsewhere. Another way to say it is those guys are holes only if you choose to make them one, in which case you need to have a plan that produces more without spending unreasonably over what their resign fee would be.
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Old 01-18-2015, 12:05 PM   #55
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Orakpo - Injured, as usual
Polumbus - Demoted
Helu - Backup
J Jenkins - Bust
Meriweather - Concussed or suspended
Hankerson - Contributed nothing
Paul - Special Teamer
Moss - Not in Skins plans
McCoy - Noodle armed stopgap
Clark - Done
Biggers - Sucks

These players need to be replaced via FA? Uh, no. They could all leave and not be missed on the field.
This assessment is dead on.

I feel bad for Jenkins, he showed promise during pre-season his first year but that injury really killed his ceiling.

I will never understand why some people are still enamored with Hank. lol I remember getting into a huge argument with some guy on the board a year or two ago, because he swore Hank was going to be a formidable #1.
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Old 01-18-2015, 12:06 PM   #56
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Helu hasn't done much in 2 years. Paul had 1 good game last yr.
Helu I think is a good #2, but I'd honestly like to see Redd moved up the depth chart.

I don't know how offenses work, but I know we're bringing in big fatties for the line... Would that mean we're changing to a shifty cut runner (like Helu) or a big power runner (Alfmo)?
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Old 01-18-2015, 12:31 PM   #57
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I like Helu but we need a back that can block on 3rd downs. It was a big problem this year.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:22 PM   #58
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In free agency, Mike Iupati and Byron Maxwell are my hopefuls, I really hope they look into moving Amerson to FS.
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Old 01-18-2015, 10:18 PM   #59
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I'd love maxwell and mike I.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:35 AM   #60
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I like Helu but we need a back that can block on 3rd downs. It was a big problem this year.
This. Our RB and TE *have* to block, and catch 2nd. We've just collected RB and pass-catching TE who cannot block.

Nothing wrong with FA to fill the roster with good depth / character. The strategy should be pick up the bargains AFTER the first 2 weeks of FA, instead of overpaying for older vets looking for a payday. If McC has a good eye for the draft, hope he has a good eye for FA bargains as well. And taking them young 25-27 is better than the 30+ year olds we used to pick up.
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