Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread

Buffalo Bob · 10-18-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

ANY Chance whatsoever that MCoy starts? Do they wait until the skins are mathematically eliminated, which could be a while in the weak NFC east? Or does Cousins get the whole entire year no matter what? With the division, it might not be until 8 losses that we are mathematically out...Which still means there is hope if KC can limit the INT's(they will probably always be there) to 1 per game, and the running game returns and steps up.....

No purpose to Colt starting he would be 3rd string on most teams. Any time he has started a succession of games in his career he has gotten progressively worse. It is pretty simple, it doesn't take long for defensive coordinators to figure out what limitations he will have in whatever offense he is running. Look him up on profootball reference. By the time he gets his
4th straight start he will be lucky to throw for 100 yards.

CRedskinsRule · 10-18-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We have the same record as the Seahawks.

Better than Baltimore lol

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skinsfaninok · 10-18-2015, 09:55 PM

I'd be fine wi Callahan

CRedskinsRule · 10-18-2015, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by calia

Our third quarters are really inexplicably bad. Never seen anything like it.

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Snyder is telling the other teams the halftime plan so JG comes crawling back to him and ask forgiveness.

Atleast that's what my sources say

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NoCalHail · 10-18-2015, 10:06 PM

I really am trying to give Kirk the benefit of the doubt. I know we are running a very vanilla offense right now with not a lot of star power at the skill positions.

However, something I have noticed that is probably more frustrating than the INTs, is just how often Kirk is unable to throw to targets in stride, whether it is a 3 yard pass, a 10 yard pass or a heave downfield. Now, I am watching the Pats/Colts right now, and a big number of Brady's passes are actually very similar distance to what Kirk is throwing. The main difference though is Brady is delivering these passes in stride. It is allowing the ball carriers to run, and keep running. They are turning short catches into long gains. And it's not like they have their defenders beat by 5 yards. A lot of these defenders are in decent position for coverage, but it's where the ball is delivered that is making all the difference.

I hear a portion of our fanbase repeat things like "if your fingers can touch the ball, you should be able to catch it" which sure, some of the times the WRs might be able to do better to bring a catch or two in, but you look at the routes they are running, and without those balls being delivered to the right spot, a completion is going to end up being a moot point anyway.

With that said. The question is, why is Cousins doing this so much? It can't be lack of understanding the offense, he often makes the correct read. It can't be that he is rushed, because the O-line is protecting pretty well more times than not. Is it lack of arm strength? Is it bad mechanics? I know people see a QB heave a ball downfield as proof they have good arm strength, but I would say the actual velocity on the ball is more important than how far you can chuck it.

Not to bring up the "other guy" because I am not looking to make this Cousins vs. "other guy" but I remember some of the throws that the other guy made look effortless. It wasn't necessarily the long passes, it was the crossing route patterns that he could deliver on a frozen rope, with zip on the ball to where the WR would run in stride and keep running. When I see Cousins throwing these routes, it is like you are holding your breath every single time that the DB doesn't have time to get a step right in front of the pass and take off the other way.

punch it in · 10-18-2015, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

IDK..not letting Gruden off the hook completely, in the end he's judged by his record. Just seems more like a talent issue.

But its the same talent in all four quarters? In I believe all 6 games we have been thoroughly outdone in the third quarter. Other teams are coming out and adjusting against whatever we are doing in the first half and we are not. If it were mainly about talent we would just be getting beat from start to finish.

skinsfaninok · 10-18-2015, 10:19 PM

What is our points scored to given up in the 3rd quarter this yr?? It's gotta be like negative 50

DynamiteRave · 10-18-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

What is our points scored to given up in the 3rd quarter this yr?? It's gotta be like negative 50

I believe I read 46-3

skinsfaninok · 10-18-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I believe I read 46-3

Wow

Chico23231 · 10-18-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

What is our points scored to given up in the 3rd quarter this yr?? It's gotta be like negative 50

Bashaud Breeland up, Kirk Cousins down in Redskins' loss to Jets - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

Skins been out scored 46-3 in the 3rd. Fuck Gruden

skinsfaninok · 10-18-2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Bashaud Breeland up, Kirk Cousins down in Redskins' loss to Jets - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

Skins been out scored 46-3 in the 3rd. Fuck Gruden

But we are "improving every week" lol that dude is a joke

punch it in · 10-18-2015, 10:45 PM

Been outscored 103-51 in the second half. Thats an average of 8.5 points after halftime. If you take away the garbage time - teams playing prevent bologna - its really quite disparaging.
Leading at halftime in 5 of the 6 games.

skinsfaninok · 10-18-2015, 11:24 PM

That's on gruden and the non adjustments

VTSkins1961 · 10-18-2015, 11:33 PM

frick it, start Captain Kirk and get a better draft pick. Our QB of the future is not on the team..... cant play RG3 to brittle, mcoy is weak armed. Jay made his bed so make him sleep in it. boot him out at the end of the year

Bangee7 · 10-19-2015, 12:12 AM

I've been a big supporter of Jay, but even I realize we are being out coached in the 2nd half of games.

I fully expected JG to have growing pains last year...afterall, it's a big step from coordinator to be the man in charge of everything...every practice, every break, every big call, etc.

No doubt his head was swimming last year.

But, he had a full off season to REFLECT & REACT....the results thus far are not showing much improvement.

I would have thought with Callahan on board that he'd be a strong influence, but truthfully, none of us are seeing it.

c'mon Jay, we're running out of games...hold yourself as accountable as you do everyone else & start stepping it up.

10-18-2015, 09:55 PM	#318
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,189	Re: Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread I'd be fine wi Callahan __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-18-2015, 10:06 PM	#320
NoCalHail Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 368	Re: Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread I really am trying to give Kirk the benefit of the doubt. I know we are running a very vanilla offense right now with not a lot of star power at the skill positions. However, something I have noticed that is probably more frustrating than the INTs, is just how often Kirk is unable to throw to targets in stride, whether it is a 3 yard pass, a 10 yard pass or a heave downfield. Now, I am watching the Pats/Colts right now, and a big number of Brady's passes are actually very similar distance to what Kirk is throwing. The main difference though is Brady is delivering these passes in stride. It is allowing the ball carriers to run, and keep running. They are turning short catches into long gains. And it's not like they have their defenders beat by 5 yards. A lot of these defenders are in decent position for coverage, but it's where the ball is delivered that is making all the difference. I hear a portion of our fanbase repeat things like "if your fingers can touch the ball, you should be able to catch it" which sure, some of the times the WRs might be able to do better to bring a catch or two in, but you look at the routes they are running, and without those balls being delivered to the right spot, a completion is going to end up being a moot point anyway. With that said. The question is, why is Cousins doing this so much? It can't be lack of understanding the offense, he often makes the correct read. It can't be that he is rushed, because the O-line is protecting pretty well more times than not. Is it lack of arm strength? Is it bad mechanics? I know people see a QB heave a ball downfield as proof they have good arm strength, but I would say the actual velocity on the ball is more important than how far you can chuck it. Not to bring up the "other guy" because I am not looking to make this Cousins vs. "other guy" but I remember some of the throws that the other guy made look effortless. It wasn't necessarily the long passes, it was the crossing route patterns that he could deliver on a frozen rope, with zip on the ball to where the WR would run in stride and keep running. When I see Cousins throwing these routes, it is like you are holding your breath every single time that the DB doesn't have time to get a step right in front of the pass and take off the other way.

10-18-2015, 10:19 PM	#322
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,189	Re: Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread What is our points scored to given up in the 3rd quarter this yr?? It's gotta be like negative 50 __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-18-2015, 10:45 PM	#327
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 54 Posts: 24,143	Re: Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread Been outscored 103-51 in the second half. Thats an average of 8.5 points after halftime. If you take away the garbage time - teams playing prevent bologna - its really quite disparaging. Leading at halftime in 5 of the 6 games.

10-18-2015, 11:24 PM	#328
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,189	Re: Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread That's on gruden and the non adjustments __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-18-2015, 11:33 PM	#329
VTSkins1961 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 392	Re: Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread frick it, start Captain Kirk and get a better draft pick. Our QB of the future is not on the team..... cant play RG3 to brittle, mcoy is weak armed. Jay made his bed so make him sleep in it. boot him out at the end of the year

10-19-2015, 12:12 AM	#330
Bangee7 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Pa Posts: 697	Re: Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread I've been a big supporter of Jay, but even I realize we are being out coached in the 2nd half of games. I fully expected JG to have growing pains last year...afterall, it's a big step from coordinator to be the man in charge of everything...every practice, every break, every big call, etc. No doubt his head was swimming last year. But, he had a full off season to REFLECT & REACT....the results thus far are not showing much improvement. I would have thought with Callahan on board that he'd be a strong influence, but truthfully, none of us are seeing it. c'mon Jay, we're running out of games...hold yourself as accountable as you do everyone else & start stepping it up.

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