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Originally Posted by mooby

Punch I have always respected you but I feel you are overreacting on this one. How do you even have expectations for next year? They haven't made a single move yet. They probably are still conducting exit interviews today. Maybe I will start being concerned if we haven't made any moves and training camp is about to start. But we're a long way off from that.



I think people lose sight of the fact this is the ultimate team sport. No one man can move the ball down the field single-handedly. No one man can stop every play on defense. We lost yesterday and to the Panthers because the entire team looked bad. I am putting that on Jay Gruden, it is on him and the staff to have us prepared for big games, and they clearly weren't. But it's not all on him, we still have a talent deficiency and that's on McC. Let's just give them another offseason to get their shit together and see where we're at after next year. Anything less than playoffs is obviously a disappointment.

I hate the Giants with a passion. I live in Giant country. Im definitely overreacting to a point. I do not want to burn it all down. I said that.
What I see when I try to be real about our situation is a quarterback who MIGHT be the guy if he can stop with the deadly mistakes in crunch time. A coaching staff that is still completely in question. A defense that certainly needs at leadt three or four difference makers. An oline that inexplicably cannot run block. A need for a real rb too. A wr corp that might need a tight end due to Reeds injury woes. Djax probably being gone. A first round pick that we have no idea about. A kicking problem.
I mean I hate to sound so pessimistic bur this teams future has a shit ton of question marks, not the feel of a team on the verge of great things. Again sorry. Lol.

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Originally Posted by MTK

I guess in 2 years we needed to be SB bound to please some people. Oh well. Reality sucks.

No not at all. The other night was the litmus test for me that we have all been waiting for. We failed. As i get over it I will put everything in perspective and again I say next year I expect to make the playoffs if we are where you think we are. Again barring major injuries. So maybe my reaction is a year early. If we finish 7-9 next year or 8-8 than can i be concerned?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I guess in 2 years we needed to be SB bound to please some people. Oh well. Reality sucks.

At the beginning of the season I thought we could've had a losing record and been a better quality team than they were in 2015. They ended up with a slightly above average record and were a better team. They had a chance to win 12 games this year, there is no way we had a chance to win 12 in 2015. Back to back winning seasons is a step in the right direction. Players and fans should be disappointed with yesterday but I see future potential for this team which I haven't felt in a long time.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

At the beginning of the season I thought we could've had a losing record and been a better quality team than they were in 2015. They ended up with a slightly above average record and were a better team. They had a chance to win 12 games this year, there is no way we had a chance to win 12 in 2015. Back to back winning seasons is a step in the right direction. Players and fans should be disappointed with yesterday but I see future potential for this team which I haven't felt in a long time.

I definitely agree. Progress wasn't made in the W/L column but I definitely felt we were a better team this year and had more quality wins.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

McCloughan was also in successful front offices in Green Bay and SF, so let's stop with this nonsense like he doesn't know what he's doing.

Losing does this to most fans. I understand it sucks we didn't make a push this yr but it happens. We all said 9 wins would be a good season so now y is everyone so down and out?? We basically won 9 games if DH makes that gimme FG

[OmahaRedskins]

I think it hurts more this year, because our kicker lost us two games. With an average kicker, we could have been 10-6. This would be an improvement from last year playing a harder schedule.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Losing does this to most fans. I understand it sucks we didn't make a push this yr but it happens. We all said 9 wins would be a good season so now y is everyone so down and out?? We basically won 9 games if DH makes that gimme FG

I feel like most fan predictions were 7-9 wins.

[SFREDSKIN]

Dale Earhadt Jr. says:

Scot McCloughan drafts are starting to bear fruit. Deep at WR even w/ unsigned FAs. Improved OLine. Need to retain coaching top to bottom...

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Originally Posted by MTK

I feel like most fan predictions were 7-9 wins.

I predicted 10-11 i think. Guess i had too high of expectations which would explain my disdain with how the season just unfolded.
Being somewhat relevant is a good thing, but i have this feeling things are going to get worse before they get better yet again. Chalk it up to two decades.
Right now i would put my money on a 5 win season over a ten win season next year if those were my choices and one was the truth.
Just too many questions and holes imo still.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I predicted 10-11 i think. Guess i had too high of expectations which would explain my disdain with how the season just unfolded.
Being somewhat relevant is a good thing, but i have this feeling things are going to get worse before they get better yet again. Chalk it up to two decades.
Right now i would put my money on a 5 win season over a ten win season next year if those were my choices and one was the truth.
Just too many questions and holes imo still.

I'd take that bet, how about $100 says we're closer to 10 wins than 5.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I think we take the step next year. I was a year ahead this year. I see us winning exactly 10 games next year. This is based off the defensive improvements I think we'll see after another FA period and draft.

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Originally Posted by MTK

I'd take that bet, how about $100 says we're closer to 10 wins than 5.

Well the question did not include an "or somewhere in between" clause. It was either 10 or 5. Tried to leave a wide margin between options for the sake of the question. I certainly do not expect them to win five. However if somehow I had a peek into the future and was told it would be either 5 or 10 I would choose 5 - albeit id be surprised by that number - just not as surprised as i would be with 10. I expect them to win 7-9 actually and if If i take your bet - with my luck - they would win 8 and id be pissed off at the season and out 100 bucks. Lol.

I would consider 100 dollars on whether or not they make the playoffs.....if i were a gambling man.

[MTK]

Ok $100 says they make the playoffs next year.

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I think we take the step next year. I was a year ahead this year. I see us winning exactly 10 games next year. This is based off the defensive improvements I think we'll see after another FA period and draft.

Giants and Dallas should be good again. Eagles should improve too. Chiefs, Raiders, Arizona, Denver, Seattle, Vikings, Saints. 10 wins is a tall order. Of course a lot can happen between now and than. Upon first glance that is not looking like an easy road.

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Originally Posted by MTK

Ok $100 says they make the playoffs next year.

I said .... if i were a gambling man. Haha. You're trying hard to get me to stand by my gut feeling about this team going forward.
I honestly do not gamble, and I honestly hope I am dead wrong. FFB is about as close as I come to gambling, but that is fun as fuck so I feel like i am getting something in return for my money - win or lose.
I gambled one time on a Clippers vs Jazz game years ago when the Clippers were winning like 10 games a year. Utah had Malone and Stockton. No injuries. It was in Utah. I put about 100 or 200 dollars down because the spread was low and I was giving my friend advice. He did not even watch sports so he would say "hey what looks good"? He kept winning off of my advice. So anyway I bet on Utah to cover - maybe 8 points?- at home. Clippers smoked them. It was an inglorious start and finish to my gambling prowess.
Edit- 3/27/99 Clippers 103 Jazz 77. Clippers won 8 or 9 games. Utah was championship caliber. Lost by 26? Really? I still want my money back.