In Scot we trust?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

8-7-1 is a winning season, but I will not argue with the theory that you are as good as your last 4-6 games.

The Cowboys, for example, finished the season 2-2...

Clearly a fail of a season

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

My question here is if you start the season 9-0 but finish at 9-7? Is that really a winning season?

Not trying to piss on anyones Wheaties. But was listening to Pat Kirwan the other day and his theory is "You are as good as your last 4 to 6 games. That is the team you are today. Not who you were at the start of the season, but who you are today." Is 2-4 a more accurate reflection? Or is 8-7-1?

I would argue that going 2-4 in your last 6 games is more a reflection that you did poorly in your last 6 games, whereas going 8-7-1 over the course of a season reflects that you were above average by the slimmest of margins. That's just me though.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

My question here is if you start the season 9-0 but finish at 9-7? Is that really a winning season?



Not trying to piss on anyones Wheaties. But was listening to Pat Kirwan the other day and his theory is "You are as good as your last 4 to 6 games. That is the team you are today. Not who you were at the start of the season, but who you are today." Is 2-4 a more accurate reflection? Or is 8-7-1?

Win a playoff game before u get so smug,.... and remember when you lose your first playoff game you are 0-1 until next year

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

I am going to have a great time on the dallas cowards forums when they get sent home from the playoffs.. if they win it all then fine with that but why the heck do they come to this site and poke around..

Sandtrap isn't really a troll, but he is as delusional as any other Cowboy fan. I swear you would think they win championships every other day. Lol. How many playoff wins do they have in the last 20 years?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yes more wins than losses equals a winning season, it's simple math.

C'mon? Be serious now. Your just looking at my avatar and trying to write sh*t off.

But you know and I know as well as anyone else knows that if a team, any team, starts a season off 9-0 and finishes 0-7 there will be coaches looking for jobs. Even a head coach. Sure 9-7 is a 'winning season' by simple math. But that 0-7 finish is a coffin nail.

Someone in Landover agress. Washington was in first place in the division for a short time this season. Then they finish 2-4 and the entire defensive staff gets fired.

[MTK]

You're confusing winning season with successful season. And the entire staff wasn't fired.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

C'mon? Be serious now. Your just looking at my avatar and trying to write sh*t off.

But you know and I know as well as anyone else knows that if a team, any team, starts a season off 9-0 and finishes 0-7 there will be coaches looking for jobs. Even a head coach. Sure 9-7 is a 'winning season' by simple math. But that 0-7 finish is a coffin nail.

Someone in Landover agress. Washington was in first place in the division for a short time this season. Then they finish 2-4 and the entire defensive staff gets fired.

Your talking about several things now and seems like your digging. Defense kinda been questionable since Barry took the reigns.

But whatever you have to tell yourself that the Skins aren't getting better, feel free. But the facts remain winning seasons back to back...couple division titles since 2012...this feeling of stability throughout the organization and throughout the league is pretty obvious.

I actually believe the Skins, Cowboys and Giants are pretty much evenly matched. Not a lot of separation. Eagles got some work to do, but overall the East is back.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

You're confusing winning season with successful season.

The two are mutually exclusive? I'm intrigued.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Your talking about several things now and seems like your digging. Defense kinda been questionable since Barry took the reigns.

But whatever you have to tell yourself that the Skins aren't getting better, feel free. But the facts remain winning seasons back to back...couple division titles since 2012...this feeling of stability throughout the organization and throughout the league is pretty obvious.

I actually believe the Skins, Cowboys and Giants are pretty much evenly matched. Not a lot of separation. Eagles got some work to do, but overall the East is back.

I did not say that the 'Skins are not getting better. I did not say they got any worse, nor that they are status quo. All I asked (I did NOT say). But I asked a fargin' question. You guys have never given a crap about what I think anyway. So that is why I asked a question.

Question I asked is whether 8-7-1 is more indicative of who you are today or is 2-4?

Lets look at it another way. Would you rather have finished the last 6 weeks of season at 4-2 to be at 8-7-1? Or 2-4 and finish at 8-7-1?

And yes and concur. Put the rest of the league on notice, the NFC Beast is back.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

The two are mutually exclusive? I'm intrigued.

Come on man, you know a one and done playoff run is not what the Cowboys or their fans have in mind. If The Packers come into Dallas and knock you out of the playoffs will you say "hey we won a bunch of games this year and lost a home playoff game - Im good with that"!

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

8-7-1 is a winning season, but I will not argue with the theory that you are as good as your last 4-6 games.

The Cowboys, for example, finished the season 2-2...

You can count Week 16 at Philly all you want. But the Cowboys mailed that game in. They promoted a bunch of fodder off of the practice squad and let them play with 'Butt Fumble" the entire second half. Cowboys win came when they got out of that game without significant injuries to any starters.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I did not say that the 'Skins are not getting better. I did not say they got any worse, nor that they are status quo. All I asked (I did NOT say). But I asked a fargin' question. You guys have never given a crap about what I think anyway. So that is why I asked a question.



Question I asked is whether 8-7-1 is more indicative of who you are today or is 2-4?



Lets look at it another way. Would you rather have finished the last 6 weeks of season at 4-2 to be at 8-7-1? Or 2-4 and finish at 8-7-1?



And yes and concur. Put the rest of the league on notice, the NFC Beast is back.

Who cares when you win games? There are so many contributing factors. Injuries, suspensions (like Trents), etc etc. Who gives a crap about only the last few weeks? Like someone else asked you "do you consider Dallas a .500 team because they finished the year 2-2. If you lose next week 2-3?
Your question about how you gauge a team based on their finish cannot exclude your team? So either we are coming off a winning season, or (if you lose) we are both losers?
And just for the record you are not a troll imo and I do care what you have to say. Same as Giant one and Honolulu Blue.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I did not say that the 'Skins are not getting better. I did not say they got any worse, nor that they are status quo. All I asked (I did NOT say). But I asked a fargin' question. You guys have never given a crap about what I think anyway. So that is why I asked a question.

Question I asked is whether 8-7-1 is more indicative of who you are today or is 2-4?

Lets look at it another way. Would you rather have finished the last 6 weeks of season at 4-2 to be at 8-7-1? Or 2-4 and finish at 8-7-1?

And yes and concur. Put the rest of the league on notice, the NFC Beast is back.

Back to back winning seasons (C-O-N-S-I-S-T-E-N-C-Y) with a talented core of players clearly has the Skins what they actually are 8-7-1. Like I said, your reaching, wanting to believe.

Keep chasing those fucking windmills, Don Quixote. You understand that, or you need more help explaining the analogy?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Would I rather go out on a winning streak? Absolutely. Is your last half record indicative of the direction of your team as a whole? I 100% disagree. I just think it's some talking point by Kirwan. Were we the team that swept the last few games with RG3 at the helm? Just like everyone else is saying, there are a TON of factors. Everyone wants to go in hot, but if you don't, your team isn't any shittier.

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

C'mon? Be serious now. Your just looking at my avatar and trying to write sh*t off.

But you know and I know as well as anyone else knows that if a team, any team, starts a season off 9-0 and finishes 0-7 there will be coaches looking for jobs. Even a head coach. Sure 9-7 is a 'winning season' by simple math. But that 0-7 finish is a coffin nail.

Someone in Landover agress. Washington was in first place in the division for a short time this season. Then they finish 2-4 and the entire defensive staff gets fired.

typical uneducated cowboys fan, you don't even realize that your own team was in first place wire to wire this year. Go somewhere else peddle your stupidity.