By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

[SFREDSKIN]

Robert Davis promoted from PS and Kalis is back. I want to see Davis!!

The Redskins claimed guard Kyle Kalis off waivers and promoted receiver Robert Davis off the practice squad, the team announced. They waived defensive lineman Caraun Reid and linebacker Pete Robertson. The Redskins had cut Kalis this summer; he was t

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Robert Davis promoted from PS and Kalis is back. I want to see Davis!!



The Redskins claimed guard Kyle Kalis off waivers and promoted receiver Robert Davis off the practice squad, the team announced. They waived defensive lineman Caraun Reid and linebacker Pete Robertson. The Redskins had cut Kalis this summer; he was t

I honestly do not know how you stay excited about this team. U r a better fan than me SF. Lol

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I honestly do not know how you stay excited about this team. U r a better fan than me SF. Lol

Never give up, no matter what. Injuries killed this team, if we were fully healthy we would take the NFC. We gave teams like Minnesota, NO and others games till the talent of the back ups caught up and key injuries during the game hurt us. I laugh when people say fire Gruden, he’s not perfect but we are headed in the right direction. We need to sign Cousins no matter what.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Never give up, no matter what. Injuries killed this team, if we were fully healthy we would take the NFC.

Looking at it objectively trying to win the NFC, even the division the next two years is going to be tough. Philly has Wentz on a rookie deal for 2018-2019, the way he is playing that is like a $20 mil a year discount. Seattle's run a few years back was helped a lot by Russel Wilson playing for peanuts as soon as he got a raise Seattle had to let players go over money and they fell off.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Looking at it objectively trying to win the NFC, even the division the next two years is going to be tough. Philly has Wentz on a rookie deal for 2018-2019, the way he is playing that is like a $20 mil a year discount. Seattle's run a few years back was helped a lot by Russel Wilson playing for peanuts as soon as he got a raise Seattle had to let players go over money and they fell off.

Not true. Seattle fell off because they had to also pay Wagner, Sherman, Thomas, Kam, Graham, Bennett, Baldwin...Between all those guys it's probably more than half of their cap. Wilson at 20 million is right now a good deal.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Never give up, no matter what. Injuries killed this team, if we were fully healthy we would take the NFC. We gave teams like Minnesota, NO and others games till the talent of the back ups caught up and key injuries during the game hurt us. I laugh when people say fire Gruden, he’s not perfect but we are headed in the right direction. We need to sign Cousins no matter what.

This is one of the more sensible posts on this topic. Firing Gruden would not help. It would only set us back. Most, if not all, of the complaints about Gruden are minor, IMO, and many of them are fixable. Let's look at the big picture.

1. This team plays hard for Jay Gruden.

2.We started the year as a much improved team but we were decimated by injuries - many serious injuries to key players. Sometimes, if there are too many injuries, then injuries are a valid excuse.

3. We were one dropped pass and one bad penalty call away from possibly two more wins against tough teams on the road and we beat Seattle at their place.

4. Kirk Cousins has shown that he can lead 4th quarter comebacks. He dueled Drew Brees even up. He continues to improve as an NFL QB. It would be foolish to take him out of an offense he knows like the back of his hand. Don't forget that the FO stuck Kirk with a huge downgrade at both WR positions to start the season.

5. I think we're on the right path with the addition of some solid FA vets and numerous promising young players. The young players are being developed by a mostly solid coaching staff.

6. This team is nowhere near a disaster. It could be a very good team soon. We must not go back to square one.

7. Finally, clear you mind for one moment and ponder who would be making the HC hiring decision if Jay Gruden were fired. Got it? OK. I rest my case.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

This is one of the more sensible posts on this topic. Firing Gruden would not help. It would only set us back. Most, if not all, of the complaints about Gruden are minor, IMO, and many of them are fixable. Let's look at the big picture.

1. This team plays hard for Jay Gruden.

2.We started the year as a much improved team but we were decimated by injuries - many serious injuries to key players. Sometimes, if there are too many injuries, then injuries are a valid excuse.

3. We were one dropped pass and one bad penalty call away from possibly two more wins against tough teams on the road and we beat Seattle at their place.

4. Kirk Cousins has shown that he can lead 4th quarter comebacks. He dueled Drew Brees even up. He continues to improve as an NFL QB. It would be foolish to take him out of an offense he knows like the back of his hand. Don't forget that the FO stuck Kirk with a huge downgrade at both WR positions to start the season.

5. I think we're on the right path with the addition of some solid FA vets and numerous promising young players. The young players are being developed by a mostly solid coaching staff.

6. This team is nowhere near a disaster. It could be a very good team soon. We must not go back to square one.

7. Finally, clear you mind for one moment and ponder who would be making the HC hiring decision if Jay Gruden were fired. Got it? OK. I rest my case.

Very good post! Couldn't have said it better myself. Gruden deserves another year. A year to coach a much healthier team and to coach Kirk Cousins who will hopefully have a couple more weapons to throw to next year. I hate talking about next year, but this team is so close. Gotta stay just a little more patient.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

This is one of the more sensible posts on this topic. Firing Gruden would not help. It would only set us back. Most, if not all, of the complaints about Gruden are minor, IMO, and many of them are fixable. Let's look at the big picture.

1. This team plays hard for Jay Gruden.

2.We started the year as a much improved team but we were decimated by injuries - many serious injuries to key players. Sometimes, if there are too many injuries, then injuries are a valid excuse.

3. We were one dropped pass and one bad penalty call away from possibly two more wins against tough teams on the road and we beat Seattle at their place.

4. Kirk Cousins has shown that he can lead 4th quarter comebacks. He dueled Drew Brees even up. He continues to improve as an NFL QB. It would be foolish to take him out of an offense he knows like the back of his hand. Don't forget that the FO stuck Kirk with a huge downgrade at both WR positions to start the season.

5. I think we're on the right path with the addition of some solid FA vets and numerous promising young players. The young players are being developed by a mostly solid coaching staff.

6. This team is nowhere near a disaster. It could be a very good team soon. We must not go back to square one.

7. Finally, clear you mind for one moment and ponder who would be making the HC hiring decision if Jay Gruden were fired. Got it? OK. I rest my case.

*barfs*

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Never give up, no matter what. Injuries killed this team, if we were fully healthy we would take the NFC. We gave teams like Minnesota, NO and others games till the talent of the back ups caught up and key injuries during the game hurt us. I laugh when people say fire Gruden, he’s not perfect but we are headed in the right direction. We need to sign Cousins no matter what.

Agreed 100%
I also think some of the costly mistakes can go away if this teams starts viewing itself like a solid one that deserves winning and players have a stronger and deeper confidence in themselves and what they can achieve.
The Saints game alone shows me a team that has tremendous potential (even with the injuries) but isn't mentally ready to win big games.

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