By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes firing him now is stupid.

I was watching Gruden's coaches show last week and Cooley was kind of getting on him about why he doesn't do the QB sneak. He said Cousins doesn't have thick legs like Dalton does so that's why he hates it. Yet in the Saints game Payton had Brees do a sneak to pick up a 4th and less than a yard. Brees is like 6'0 and barely 200lbs. SMFH....

Id guess it has to do with not trusting our center, who we signed off the street a month ago. You cant make that guy the point of attack. If gruden did that and we got stuffed, he would get criticized for that.

Our battered O line and center have taken away consistent O line push on run plays and 5-7 drop play calls on passing plays.

Injuries on offense make it hard to game plan each week, with gruden not knowing who can and cant play.

Itd be easier if we just IR'd Reed, Trent, Moses .. so we know a week in advance who is going to be playing.

Hard to grade the coaches at this point imo.

[skinsfaninok]

Jay Gruden: Redskins need more from Kirk Cousins moving forward | NBC Sports Washington

I mean what more can Kirk do?? Man it sure seems like they just don't want Kirk around much longer.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Jay Gruden: Redskins need more from Kirk Cousins moving forward | NBC Sports Washington

I mean what more can Kirk do?? Man it sure seems like they just don't want Kirk around much longer.

This should get more people on board with being fired. We need way more from Jay than we need from Kirk.

[Schneed10]

In my opinion, that's a terrible misinterpretation of what Jay is saying. He's saying we need Kirk to do what he's been doing 4 more times, he's not saying we need him to do more than what he has been doing.

[SFREDSKIN]

Robert Davis promoted from PS and Kalis is back. I want to see Davis!!

The Redskins claimed guard Kyle Kalis off waivers and promoted receiver Robert Davis off the practice squad, the team announced. They waived defensive lineman Caraun Reid and linebacker Pete Robertson. The Redskins had cut Kalis this summer; he was t

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Jay Gruden: Redskins need more from Kirk Cousins moving forward | NBC Sports Washington

I mean what more can Kirk do?? Man it sure seems like they just don't want Kirk around much longer.

I really had no problem w/ what Gruden said. He didn't say anything negative and said a lot of positive things.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Id guess it has to do with not trusting our center, who we signed off the street a month ago. You cant make that guy the point of attack. If gruden did that and we got stuffed, he would get criticized for that.

Our battered O line and center have taken away consistent O line push on run plays and 5-7 drop play calls on passing plays.

Injuries on offense make it hard to game plan each week, with gruden not knowing who can and cant play.

Itd be easier if we just IR'd Reed, Trent, Moses .. so we know a week in advance who is going to be playing.

Hard to grade the coaches at this point imo.

This seems to be the part people forget, like we expect the same level of production that we got out of Long or Rouiller. Guy has barely been with the team for a month.

Overall good post too OTM, I agree with it in general.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes. Jay is an Arena League amateur. The real question should be does he deserve to finish the season.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read on this site.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'd rather have Sean McVay if that says anything. I think Jay is a good coach, just one that doesn't have much discipline. We could do better, but we also could do worse.

Who is going to be better with all of the injuries?

[jamf]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Id guess it has to do with not trusting our center, who we signed off the street a month ago. You cant make that guy the point of attack. If gruden did that and we got stuffed, he would get criticized for that.

The QB sneak has got to be the easiest and most successful plays you can run in the NFL for a lineman.
We aren't asking a center to guard Von Miller at the edge, They just need to snap the ball and go forward. Hell, they don't even have to go forward, just hit a guy and let KC pick a side to dive in.

Check out this article with conversion stats:
The dying art of the QB sneak

The fact that Gruden can't coach a slant or QB sneak pisses me off.

[Giantone]

Be it far from me to be the voice of reason but about a week ago many of you were talking playoff chance's and now you want to fire the coach.
Who the hell do you think you are the Giants???

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really had no problem w/ what Gruden said. He didn't say anything negative and said a lot of positive things.

Classic case of a misleading headline

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Id guess it has to do with not trusting our center, who we signed off the street a month ago. You cant make that guy the point of attack. If gruden did that and we got stuffed, he would get criticized for that.

Our battered O line and center have taken away consistent O line push on run plays and 5-7 drop play calls on passing plays.

Injuries on offense make it hard to game plan each week, with gruden not knowing who can and cant play.

Itd be easier if we just IR'd Reed, Trent, Moses .. so we know a week in advance who is going to be playing.

Hard to grade the coaches at this point imo.

Good point.
But I don't think it was a better call to take the chance behind an injured Scherff and a limping Moses with your rookie RB.

I'm a JG defender but that is one call that I hated.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Robert Davis promoted from PS and Kalis is back. I want to see Davis!!



The Redskins claimed guard Kyle Kalis off waivers and promoted receiver Robert Davis off the practice squad, the team announced. They waived defensive lineman Caraun Reid and linebacker Pete Robertson. The Redskins had cut Kalis this summer; he was t

I honestly do not know how you stay excited about this team. U r a better fan than me SF. Lol

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by jamf

The QB sneak has got to be the easiest and most successful plays you can run in the NFL for a lineman.
We aren't asking a center to guard Von Miller at the edge, They just need to snap the ball and go forward. Hell, they don't even have to go forward, just hit a guy and let KC pick a side to dive in.

Check out this article with conversion stats:
The dying art of the QB sneak

The fact that Gruden can't coach a slant or QB sneak pisses me off.

Obviously the athleticism of the QB hasn't much to do with the success of the QB sneak since New England is #1.