Fresh Start Political Thread

[MTK]

As a gov't employee personally I'm glad to be a union member, why are people afraid of having their workplace rights looked after?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by MTK

As a gov't employee personally I'm glad to be a union member, why are people afraid of having their workplace rights looked after?

As someone who had never been part of a Union and knows very little about them .. I feel like I am the perfect spokesperson for what the average American thinks when we think of "unions".

1. Unions make the cost of goods higher. Union employees, whether a factory worker or grocery store shelf stocker, gets a higher pay with Unions. Not to mention the top level greed of Union leaders making millions, lobbying Congress.

These added costs of production gets pased onto us the consumer.

2. Unions make it impossible to fire bad employees (police, teachers) and lazy employees (lots of State and fed employees who dont do shit, "work" 4 days a week and get huge pension and retirement plans .. from us taxpaying citizens who have to kill to eat and dont get retirement cushions).

Entire DC govt is all voicemails right now, no dept are open, no one ever calls you back ... its a joke while "secretaries" make 89k a year.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

As someone who had never been part of a Union and knows very little about them .. I feel like I am the perfect spokesperson for what the average American thinks when we think of "unions".

1. Unions make the cost of goods higher. Union employees, whether a factory worker or grocery store shelf stocker, gets a higher pay with Unions. Not to mention the top level greed of Union leaders making millions, lobbying Congress.

These added costs of production gets pased onto us the consumer.

2. Unions make it impossible to fire bad employees (police, teachers) and lazy employees (lots of State and fed employees who dont do shit, "work" 4 days a week and get huge pension and retirement plans .. from us taxpaying citizens who have to kill to eat and dont get retirement cushions).

Entire DC govt is all voicemails right now, no dept are open, no one ever calls you back ... its a joke while "secretaries" make 89k a year.

Pros and cons to everything, unions help negotiate better wages/benefits and working conditions, and they also help protect you against an employer firing you without a justifiable reason. We all like 5 day work weeks right? Health insurance, 401k's, vacation time, sick days, etc. Personally I hate the narrative that only state and fed workers are lazy. There are lazy workers in every line of work.

I know in my situation our agency is absolutely swamped since a big part of our service used to be being open to the public for walk ins. Now all of our work is over the phone, and when we first shut down the agency was ill prepared for having 100% telework. In fact our new commissioner yanked all telework just weeks before the pandemic hit. My office used to get 100 calls a day or so, now it's closer to 300. We just don't have the staff to handle it.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Haha, Joe Judge.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Haha, Joe Judge.

G1 is correct this does not belong here. This belongs in the common grounds thread. Mind your debating with the enemy etiquette SD