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[Chief X_Phackter]

SF blew it on Trey Lance, and they have still been able to field a high quality team. They got lucky with Purdy, and have competent individuals making personnel decisions though. That makes a difference.

That is also a perfect example though, of the "experts" not having it right. Trey Lance was highly touted, while Brock Purdy was an afterthought.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

SF blew it on Trey Lance, and they have still been able to field a high quality team. They got lucky with Purdy, and have competent individuals making personnel decisions though. That makes a difference.

That is also a perfect example though, of the "experts" not having it right. Trey Lance was highly touted, while Brock Purdy was an afterthought.

It's not just luck. Purdy walked into a pretty purdy situation, a team stocked with All-Pro's and a coaching staff who actually can turn Mr. Irrelevant into a Pro Bowl qb (suck an egg Josh McDaniels).

I'd go so far to argue if you fuck up the GM/coach it doesn't matter who you pick at qb. Purdy succeeded because Kyle S. knows how to develop players.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

It's not just luck. Purdy walked into a pretty purdy situation, a team stocked with All-Pro's and a coaching staff who actually can turn Mr. Irrelevant into a Pro Bowl qb (suck an egg Josh McDaniels).

I'd go so far to argue if you fuck up the GM/coach it doesn't matter who you pick at qb. Purdy succeeded because Kyle S. knows how to develop players.

I get that argument, but then how does that explain why he couldn't do the same with Lance?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I get that argument, but then how does that explain why he couldn't do the same with Lance?

I am going to say it is between the ears issue. Matt Stover once said there were 100 kickers better than he was but they didn’t have the mental fortitude for the NFL. imagine QB is the same.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I am going to say it is between the ears issue. Matt Stover once said there were 100 kickers better than he was but they didn’t have the mental fortitude for the NFL. imagine QB is the same.

Yeah... thats what I'm saying. Lets go with that

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I get that argument, but then how does that explain why he couldn't do the same with Lance?

Same reason Jay Gruden did it with Kirk when he couldn't do it with RG3?

Idk Chief I'm not the qb whisperer.

My entire point is if Harris and co. fucks up the GM/coaching staff and they fuck up the qb it might set this franchise back years to come. GM and coach is just as important as the roster.

I'm not saying pick one guy and leave it alone - I agree you have to keep swinging until you hit one. The book isn't closed on Howell either, he might just need a few years of development.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

Same reason Jay Gruden did it with Kirk when he couldn't do it with RG3?

Idk Chief I'm not the qb whisperer.

My entire point is if Harris and co. fucks up the GM/coaching staff and they fuck up the qb it might set this franchise back years to come. GM and coach is just as important as the roster.

I'm not saying pick one guy and leave it alone - I agree you have to keep swinging until you hit one. The book isn't closed on Howell either, he might just need a few years of development.

That's why I believe there's a lot of luck involved. SF was unlucky with Lance, and lucky with Purdy. Which is precisely why you have to keep swinging, as you said.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

SF blew it on Trey Lance, and they have still been able to field a high quality team. They got lucky with Purdy, and have competent individuals making personnel decisions though. That makes a difference.

That is also a perfect example though, of the "experts" not having it right. Trey Lance was highly touted, while Brock Purdy was an afterthought.

They also have competent coaches coaching him up. Purdy would still be an afterthought if he was drafted by us or several other teams. Couple that with the competent individuals making personnel decisions to put a team around him and boom. It is why GM is such an important decision for us going forward. He will hire the right coaches and put the right pieces around whoever our quarterback is.

Basically exactly what Mooby said.