Who is available next year (qb)?

12thMan · 09-22-2006, 11:46 AM

SkinsnCanes, to bring another quarterback into the equation at this point isn't only pre-mature, but senseless for a couple of reasons.

1. Jason Campbell, for all intent and purposes, hasn't played yet. We've seen spurts here and there, but not enough to be conclusive in my opinion. The jury is still out, and until he has beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I mean there is no question that he's not capable of starting in the NFL, this franchise will probably live and die with that decision. Literally!

2. The franchise has so much locked up in this kid, and why have his confidence shaken in the least bit by bringing in a new body. Probably a journey man at that.

When we brought in Brunell, it was for the most part thought of as, tops, a three to four year deal I think. He was never brought here to be the quarterback of the future, so to speak.

SKINSnCANES · 09-22-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

SkinsnCanes, to bring another quarterback into the equation at this point isn't only pre-mature, but senseless for a couple of reasons.

1. Jason Campbell, for all intent and purposes, hasn't played yet. We've seen spurts here and there, but not enough to be conclusive in my opinion. The jury is still out, and until he has beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I mean there is no question that he's not capable of starting in the NFL, this franchise will probably live and die with that decision. Literally!

2. The franchise has so much locked up in this kid, and why have his confidence shaken in the least bit by bringing in a new body. Probably a journey man at that.

When we brought in Brunell, it was for the most part thought of as, tops, a three to four year deal I think. He was never brought here to be the quarterback of the future, so to speak.

I know, and I agree. I think Campbell needs to play and we need to see what he has. I never said anything about our current QB situtation, I was just saying that whoever started this thread did so ASSUMING that Campbell and Brunell both play and suck, and wanted to know who would be available. Obviously I hope Burnell steps it up, retires, and then Campbell steps in and is the best QB the league has ever seen.

Monkeydad · 09-22-2006, 11:53 AM

We not only need to let Campbell play, but we need to let him play a full season AND begin another one to chart the progress from his "rookie" year of actually playing and his second year. If he still looks like he did in the first game, like Ramsey...try someone else.

Even Alex Smith looks better in his second year, although he still stinks.

DaveyFoSho · 09-22-2006, 11:57 AM

I like campbell!!! he has shown great arm strength and alot of untapped talent!! give him a few starts let him feel his way around and i gurantee u he is our QB for years to come!

DaveyFoSho · 09-22-2006, 11:58 AM

And campbell does not suck!! not even a little bit...he has great potential and alllot of talent....why are we even having this conversation...real issues are at hand

12thMan · 09-22-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

I know, and I agree. I think Campbell needs to play and we need to see what he has. I never said anything about our current QB situtation, I was just saying that whoever started this thread did so ASSUMING that Campbell and Brunell both play and suck, and wanted to know who would be available. Obviously I hope Burnell steps it up, retires, and then Campbell steps in and is the best QB the league has ever seen.

Agreed.

Quite frankly, I hope Brunell just retires this year

DaveyFoSho · 09-22-2006, 12:04 PM

So if Brunell decides to kick it up a notch...will you guys apologize to him??

12thMan · 09-22-2006, 12:06 PM

I'll be the first in line. Trust me, I won't the least bit upset if Brunell turns his game around.

Monkeydad · 09-22-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveyFoSho

So if Brunell decides to kick it up a notch...will you guys apologize to him??

Did they last year after his bad 2004 season?

I will admit I wanted to dump him in 2004, but he WAS battling injuries and wasn't himself. He proved that last season.

MTK · 09-22-2006, 12:12 PM

How about if the whole offense turns it around along with Brunell? That's what needs to happen, improvement across the board.

12thMan · 09-22-2006, 12:17 PM

I agree with eveyone needing to turn it around, Matty. But I think his lack luster performance has magnified all the other issues going on with the offense.

SmootSmack · 09-22-2006, 12:21 PM

It's the inevitable fate of the QB position to be in the spotlight, good or bad. I mean look at it this way, the offensive line is playing awful right now and everyone is saying Brunell totally sucks and it's pretty much all on him. Super Bowl XXII the offense line played amazingly, but it's all about look how great Doug Williams played, look how great he is. Well sure Brunell hasn't played well and Williams played great, but doesn't paint the whole picture

freddyg12 · 09-22-2006, 12:35 PM

This is a good thread, cause as someone mentioned, Brunell may retire after this year. JC will be our guy, but we'll need more vet backup than Collins.
What about B. Volek? If he can keep his mouth shut, he's a good backup. Not sure if he's signed to a long deal in SD.

12thMan · 09-22-2006, 01:13 PM

Don't get me wrong, Brunell's play does not absolve the rest of the offense. Because I think they could playing better too. Mark's performance...even when he has decent protection, we're not moving the chains. That's all I'm saying.

All things being equal, I can't think of any plays, so far, that Brunell was the difference maker.

Okay, do you guys remember last year when Brunell got pressured and there were runninging lanes, more often than not he scrambled to get clutch first downs. Against the Vikings this year in a similiar situation, he almost ran out of gas before he got to the sideline.

MTK · 09-22-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I agree with eveyone needing to turn it around, Matty. But I think his lack luster performance has magnified all the other issues going on with the offense.

My opinion is it's the other way around.

09-22-2006, 11:46 AM	#31
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? SkinsnCanes, to bring another quarterback into the equation at this point isn't only pre-mature, but senseless for a couple of reasons. 1. Jason Campbell, for all intent and purposes, hasn't played yet. We've seen spurts here and there, but not enough to be conclusive in my opinion. The jury is still out, and until he has beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I mean there is no question that he's not capable of starting in the NFL, this franchise will probably live and die with that decision. Literally! 2. The franchise has so much locked up in this kid, and why have his confidence shaken in the least bit by bringing in a new body. Probably a journey man at that. When we brought in Brunell, it was for the most part thought of as, tops, a three to four year deal I think. He was never brought here to be the quarterback of the future, so to speak.

09-22-2006, 11:53 AM	#33
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? We not only need to let Campbell play, but we need to let him play a full season AND begin another one to chart the progress from his "rookie" year of actually playing and his second year. If he still looks like he did in the first game, like Ramsey...try someone else. Even Alex Smith looks better in his second year, although he still stinks.

09-22-2006, 11:57 AM	#34
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 39 Posts: 304	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? I like campbell!!! he has shown great arm strength and alot of untapped talent!! give him a few starts let him feel his way around and i gurantee u he is our QB for years to come! __________________ DaveyFoSho

09-22-2006, 11:58 AM	#35
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 39 Posts: 304	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? And campbell does not suck!! not even a little bit...he has great potential and alllot of talent....why are we even having this conversation...real issues are at hand __________________ DaveyFoSho

09-22-2006, 12:04 PM	#37
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 39 Posts: 304	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? So if Brunell decides to kick it up a notch...will you guys apologize to him?? __________________ DaveyFoSho

09-22-2006, 12:06 PM	#38
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? I'll be the first in line. Trust me, I won't the least bit upset if Brunell turns his game around.

09-22-2006, 12:12 PM	#40
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? How about if the whole offense turns it around along with Brunell? That's what needs to happen, improvement across the board. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-22-2006, 12:17 PM	#41
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? I agree with eveyone needing to turn it around, Matty. But I think his lack luster performance has magnified all the other issues going on with the offense.

09-22-2006, 12:21 PM	#42
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? It's the inevitable fate of the QB position to be in the spotlight, good or bad. I mean look at it this way, the offensive line is playing awful right now and everyone is saying Brunell totally sucks and it's pretty much all on him. Super Bowl XXII the offense line played amazingly, but it's all about look how great Doug Williams played, look how great he is. Well sure Brunell hasn't played well and Williams played great, but doesn't paint the whole picture __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-22-2006, 12:35 PM	#43
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? This is a good thread, cause as someone mentioned, Brunell may retire after this year. JC will be our guy, but we'll need more vet backup than Collins. What about B. Volek? If he can keep his mouth shut, he's a good backup. Not sure if he's signed to a long deal in SD.

09-22-2006, 01:13 PM	#44
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Who is available next year (qb)? Don't get me wrong, Brunell's play does not absolve the rest of the offense. Because I think they could playing better too. Mark's performance...even when he has decent protection, we're not moving the chains. That's all I'm saying. All things being equal, I can't think of any plays, so far, that Brunell was the difference maker. Okay, do you guys remember last year when Brunell got pressured and there were runninging lanes, more often than not he scrambled to get clutch first downs. Against the Vikings this year in a similiar situation, he almost ran out of gas before he got to the sideline.

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