skins skin jags: Thoughts?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

You say that because the play didn't work. I don't mind at all throwing a flea-flicker on the first play of the game, especially against a defense known to be aggressive.

Agree on everything else you mentioned, especially the secondary. Can we PLEASE get Shawn Springs back now?

I wouldn't mind throwing it on the first play either. That would be 1st and 10. We ran it on the second play after a run when the defense is naturally thinking pass. I'm not against trick plays generally.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I wouldn't mind throwing it on the first play either. That would be 1st and 10. We ran it on the second play after a run when the defense is naturally thinking pass. I'm not against trick plays generally.

2nd down is not automatically a passing down. No matter, the benefit of doubt goes to Al Saunders. With his play calling, if you were the Jacksonville defense today, you just didn't know what to do.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

2nd down is not automatically a passing down. No matter, the benefit of doubt goes to Al Saunders. With his play calling, if you were the Jacksonville defense today, you just didn't know what to do.

I agree that Saunders called a great game. All I'm saying is that Jacksonville was not fooled at all. I think the 3rd quarter is the best time to call a trick play because the opposing coaches are completely wrapped up in the flow of the game by then. Surprise onside kicks work well then too. But these are only my crackpot theories. I'm sure the coaches had reasons to believe the play would work an that way at that time. They analyze those things in every conceivable way.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I agree that Saunders called a great game. All I'm saying is that Jacksonville was not fooled at all. I think the 3rd quarter is the best time to call a trick play because the opposing coaches are completely wrapped up in the flow of the game by then. Surprise onside kicks work well then too. But these are only my crackpot theories. I'm sure the coaches had reasons to believe the play would work an that way at that time. They analyze those things in every conceivable way.

Yeah, Jacksonville seemed like they were ready for the trick plays tonight -- the option pass by Randle was another example. But that's one of the advantages to this offense: Key in on Randle El, and we'll hit you with Moss and Portis! Lots of weapons to deal with here.

Soon, once Cooley and Lloyd become fully in sync, they will be another dimension defenses will have to contend with as all of the facets of this offense start firing on all cylinders.

When that happens, watch the fuck out.

[RobH4413]

Besides that one catch Brandon Lloyd had a terrible game. I can really see what the 49er fans were talking about when they said he is afraid of contact, and good for only a highlight reel or two. He had two costly plays (penalty and fumble) that could have very well ended the game for us (if we lost, everyone would want his head). He needs to step it up big time.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Besides that one catch Brandon Lloyd had a terrible game. I can really see what the 49er fans were talking about when they said he is afraid of contact, and good for only a highlight reel or two. He had two costly plays (penalty and fumble) that could have very well ended the game for us (if we lost, everyone would want his head). He needs to step it up big time.

He made 2 nice catches in the game, and he broke away from his defender only to have the ball overthrown on what would've been a TD. I wouldn't go ahead and throw in the towel on him yet...

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Besides that one catch Brandon Lloyd had a terrible game. I can really see what the 49er fans were talking about when they said he is afraid of contact, and good for only a highlight reel or two. He had two costly plays (penalty and fumble) that could have very well ended the game for us (if we lost, everyone would want his head). He needs to step it up big time.

"Besides that one catch"... Do you mean the huge one that helped them win the game?

"Step it up". Like make a huge 3rd down catch on a critical drive?

Unf-ingbelievable. I wish people would read their posts before hitting the button.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

"Besides that one catch"... Do you mean the huge one that helped them win the game?

"Step it up". Like make a huge 3rd down catch on a critical drive?

Unf-ingbelievable. I wish people would read their posts before hitting the button.

You make me laugh.

If you think Lloyd doesn't need to step it up your crazy. His celebration penalty set up a the Jaguar drive leading to a field goal... and his fumble could have very well ended the game. Defending someone contributing -6 points on the day just doesn't make sense... it's "Unf-ingbelievable".