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Old 10-19-2006, 10:35 AM   #136
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you honestly let yourself believe that? snyder has a heck of alot more input than what is really known. yes it was 6 years ago but funny we are in the same boat again. very poor decision making by the skins front office. which includes first snyder, cerrato and gibbs. we need a real gm. there are no if ands or buts about it.
What real gm? Give some names
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:38 AM   #137
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What real gm? Give some names

names of who to hire as a gm? well there names arent snyder gibbs and cerrato. a legimate general manager is what i am suggesting.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:45 AM   #138
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names of who to hire as a gm? well there names arent snyder gibbs and cerrato. a legimate general manager is what i am suggesting.
Well give some examples. And what would the new structure be? Would Vinny be gone? Would Gibbs no longer be president and have control over player personnel decisions? Would the new GM still have to answer to Snyder?
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:50 AM   #139
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I wish I could think about all of this, read these posts, and stop shaking my head in disbelief. I just can't figure it out. How we went from such a high at the end last year... to this! Do the injuries really play such a huge role for us? We've seen darker days and still dug our way out of it. I wish I could feel the hope I once had....
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:01 AM   #140
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I wish I could think about all of this, read these posts, and stop shaking my head in disbelief. I just can't figure it out. How we went from such a high at the end last year... to this! Do the injuries really play such a huge role for us? We've seen darker days and still dug our way out of it. I wish I could feel the hope I once had....
Because the "high", that 6-0 run at the end last year was an abberation. Gibbs is 19-21 since he came back. He took over a team that was below average, and so far, has made them just barely average.
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:06 AM   #141
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Because the "high", that 6-0 run at the end last year was an abberation. Gibbs is 19-21 since he came back. He took over a team that was below average, and so far, has made them just barely average.
.. hm. Maybe. But I still think out TEAM was a real TEAM last year and if we could get that back (that attitude), we could turn things around.
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:15 AM   #142
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I wish I could think about all of this, read these posts, and stop shaking my head in disbelief. I just can't figure it out. How we went from such a high at the end last year... to this! Do the injuries really play such a huge role for us? We've seen darker days and still dug our way out of it. I wish I could feel the hope I once had....
injuries, loss of underappreciated players defense, new unfamiliar players on defense, new, complicated offense to master, and frankly, i suspect, age. the difference between 35 and 36 (especially at QB) is not the same between 25 and 26..
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:47 AM   #143
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Sorry buddy, but I had to tell myself the same thing I told you. Look, many owner could care less if they win or lose. We have an owner that will do anything he can to bring us a winner.. Although he has not, I love him for trying. I am sure he will get it right someday. There are many teams in pro sports that dont care.
The only reason Snyder wants Washington to win is because it makes it easier for him to put asses in the seats.

His idea of the perfect Redskins fan is the one that drives to the stadium listening to one of the several radio stations he owns(which have about 25 minutes of actual Redskins talk per hour), pays $40 for parking, pays $90 for a seat in the nosebleeds, buys a few $9 beers and a $20 program, and watches the half assed performance on the field, all while wearing a $120 authentic Portis jersey and a $20 replica of Coach Gibbs' hat. Then they drive home, listening to the Super Official Postgame Show that is sponsored by 19 local area companies, and make a stop at Popeye's to get a bucket of the official chicken of the Washington Redskins. And the next day they go to KFC for the official chicken sandwich of the Washington Redskins.

So I agree that Snyder would like the Redskins to win for marketing purposes, but he couldn't give a shit from a football standpoint. His first love is your money, not your love for the Redskins.
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Old 10-19-2006, 04:02 PM   #144
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Heart? I didn't hear one player bad mouth their team, teammates, or the coaches. There is room for hope.



Not publically anyway.
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Old 10-19-2006, 04:08 PM   #145
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The only reason Snyder wants Washington to win is because it makes it easier for him to put asses in the seats.

His idea of the perfect Redskins fan is the one that drives to the stadium listening to one of the several radio stations he owns(which have about 25 minutes of actual Redskins talk per hour), pays $40 for parking, pays $90 for a seat in the nosebleeds, buys a few $9 beers and a $20 program, and watches the half assed performance on the field, all while wearing a $120 authentic Portis jersey and a $20 replica of Coach Gibbs' hat. Then they drive home, listening to the Super Official Postgame Show that is sponsored by 19 local area companies, and make a stop at Popeye's to get a bucket of the official chicken of the Washington Redskins. And the next day they go to KFC for the official chicken sandwich of the Washington Redskins.

So I agree that Snyder would like the Redskins to win for marketing purposes, but he couldn't give a shit from a football standpoint. His first love is your money, not your love for the Redskins.
But the funny thing is he's managed to make the Redskins the most profitable franchise in all of sports despite the fact the team has made the playoffs only twice since he's owned the team.

Now that's a salesman!
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The only reason Snyder wants Washington to win is because it makes it easier for him to put asses in the seats.

His idea of the perfect Redskins fan is the one that drives to the stadium listening to one of the several radio stations he owns(which have about 25 minutes of actual Redskins talk per hour), pays $40 for parking, pays $90 for a seat in the nosebleeds, buys a few $9 beers and a $20 program, and watches the half assed performance on the field, all while wearing a $120 authentic Portis jersey and a $20 replica of Coach Gibbs' hat. Then they drive home, listening to the Super Official Postgame Show that is sponsored by 19 local area companies, and make a stop at Popeye's to get a bucket of the official chicken of the Washington Redskins. And the next day they go to KFC for the official chicken sandwich of the Washington Redskins.

So I agree that Snyder would like the Redskins to win for marketing purposes, but he couldn't give a shit from a football standpoint. His first love is your money, not your love for the Redskins.
I take it Snyder confided in you his true motivations for being the owner of the Redskins?
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The only reason Snyder wants Washington to win is because it makes it easier for him to put asses in the seats.

His idea of the perfect Redskins fan is the one that drives to the stadium listening to one of the several radio stations he owns(which have about 25 minutes of actual Redskins talk per hour), pays $40 for parking, pays $90 for a seat in the nosebleeds, buys a few $9 beers and a $20 program, and watches the half assed performance on the field, all while wearing a $120 authentic Portis jersey and a $20 replica of Coach Gibbs' hat. Then they drive home, listening to the Super Official Postgame Show that is sponsored by 19 local area companies, and make a stop at Popeye's to get a bucket of the official chicken of the Washington Redskins. And the next day they go to KFC for the official chicken sandwich of the Washington Redskins.

So I agree that Snyder would like the Redskins to win for marketing purposes, but he couldn't give a shit from a football standpoint. His first love is your money, not your love for the Redskins.
true dat.
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Old 10-19-2006, 04:31 PM   #148
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But the funny thing is he's managed to make the Redskins the most profitable franchise in all of sports despite the fact the team has made the playoffs only twice since he's owned the team.

Now that's a salesman!
I completely agree that he is probably one of the best salesman in the world. Being an aspiring business owner myself, I actually admire his marketing savvy. But as the owner of our beloved Washington Redskins, I despise him.
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Old 10-19-2006, 04:35 PM   #149
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Everyone knows that it is time to rebuild. We had a promising defense last year, and anyone in their right mind should realize that it is easier to improve your strengths than your weaknesses. Our concern should've been maintaining and improving a solid defense. A solid defense provides for more possessions and more opportunities to improve a work in progress offense. Too bad we let our young talent leave (Arrington, Clark, Pierce), and brought in old stubborn free agents who have lost under poor defensive schemes for years (Carter, Rumph, Archuleta, and now vincent....all slow players) Last year was very exciting, and made me a happier person overall, however, it represented the death of us this year. I dunno if i can handle watching brunell for another game, imagine how effective our running game could be with any other QB.

As long as Dan Snyder holds this power, we will never win a superbowl
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you honestly let yourself believe that? snyder has a heck of alot more input than what is really known. yes it was 6 years ago but funny we are in the same boat again. very poor decision making by the skins front office. which includes first snyder, cerrato and gibbs. we need a real gm. there are no if ands or buts about it.


Snyder will never hire a GM because he's afraid of being ripped off, that's why he will always stay in the mix of decision making. The bottom line, he dosen't trust anyone.
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