The meeting with Bethard

Bill B · 11-12-2006, 09:53 PM

I am just wondering - does anyone have any inside information as to how the meeting went between Bobby Bethard and Synder a couple of years back? I remember reading in the paper that Bethard said the Redskins could not meet his compensation demands and that talks broke down soon thereafter. I find this extremely hard to believe that Synder could not afford one of the best GM's in the business. when the Reskins have more coaches than most teams have players.

skinsfan69 · 11-12-2006, 09:56 PM

I can't remember what is was but BB probably wanted too much control. I don't think it was over money. How could it be about money? Dan S. overpays everyone.

SmootSmack · 11-12-2006, 10:01 PM

Beathard didn't want to work so hard anymore. Nor did his wife want him to. He tried being a "consultant" for the Falcons back in 2002 but he found that he just couldn't "half-ass" it and spent too much time away from home.

He was ready to retire and just spend time with his family in California, and deservedly so.

MTK · 11-12-2006, 10:07 PM

Yeah I don't think the process went very far. Snyder put out a feeler and Beathard basically said no thanks.

chris36 · 11-12-2006, 10:07 PM

Bethard and Joe Gibbs dont like each other. If I remember correctly, Gibbs threatened to quit if Bethard was not let go. The next year Gibbs retired. Bethard and Gibbs beef was, Gibbs liked to play his veterans and Bethard wanted to play the young guys. Who would have guessed Gibbs was like that. So, no one starts calling me a Gibbs hater, I still would rather have Gibbs for at least three more losing seasons, before I would fire him.

MTK · 11-12-2006, 10:10 PM

The Beathard talk came when Spurrier was here, not Gibbs.

TWT 1/17 -- Spurrier, Snyder may differ on GM

Here was what Beathard had to say about it:

“To be candid, I’m really in between [being interested and not being interested],” Beathard said. “I had a good time with Dan Snyder. I was comfortable with him. He was different than what I had read. But I’m not sure how I feel right now. I’ve become a Redskins fan again. I’m thrilled they got Steve. I’m not sure if I want to get back in now. If I feel I could make the commitment, I would. I’ll probably talk with them again, but I just don’t know right now.”

Citizens for 81 · 11-12-2006, 10:12 PM

Bethard would have fit in good here. He used to toss draft picks away left and right. The only difference is he could get something in return.

chris36 · 11-12-2006, 10:17 PM

You are right, in many ways. He screwed up alot of high draft picks, except for Monk and Green. But, he made many late round steals. He also brought in Gibbs and made many great teams.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 11-13-2006, 08:05 AM

I mentioned this in another thread, but I don't think Gibbs would have had nearly as much success without Bethard

Beemnseven · 11-13-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chris36

Bethard and Joe Gibbs dont like each other. If I remember correctly, Gibbs threatened to quit if Bethard was not let go. The next year Gibbs retired. Bethard and Gibbs beef was, Gibbs liked to play his veterans and Bethard wanted to play the young guys. Who would have guessed Gibbs was like that. So, no one starts calling me a Gibbs hater, I still would rather have Gibbs for at least three more losing seasons, before I would fire him.

No, Beathard left after the '88 season, then Charley Casserly took over. Casserly was the GM when Gibbs retired.

But yes, I remember reading that the relationship between Gibbs and Beathard was tense at times.

SmootSmack · 11-13-2006, 08:35 AM

Bobby Beathard's relationship was tense with a lot of people, not just Gibbs. He didn't get along with Pardee, or with Bobby Ross either.

dmek25 · 11-13-2006, 08:51 AM

any ideas on why he was so tough to work with? or just different philosophies on the way things were to be done?

offiss · 11-13-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

any ideas on why he was so tough to work with? or just different philosophies on the way things were to be done?

With gibbs it was over personell [go figure], Ross wasen't a big time coach, and niether was Pardee, it's tough to soar with Eagles when you work with turky's.

redskinsfanatic · 11-13-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

With gibbs it was over personell [go figure], Ross wasen't a big time coach, and niether was Pardee, it's tough to soar with Eagles when you work with turky's.

no he was'nt a big time coach,he only got the chargers to the superbowl and won a national championship with georgia tech,but he was'nt a big time coach!(offis,what a stroker)

11-12-2006, 09:53 PM	#1
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	The meeting with Bethard I am just wondering - does anyone have any inside information as to how the meeting went between Bobby Bethard and Synder a couple of years back? I remember reading in the paper that Bethard said the Redskins could not meet his compensation demands and that talks broke down soon thereafter. I find this extremely hard to believe that Synder could not afford one of the best GM's in the business. when the Reskins have more coaches than most teams have players.

11-12-2006, 09:56 PM	#2
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: The meeting with Bethard I can't remember what is was but BB probably wanted too much control. I don't think it was over money. How could it be about money? Dan S. overpays everyone.

11-12-2006, 10:01 PM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: The meeting with Bethard Beathard didn't want to work so hard anymore. Nor did his wife want him to. He tried being a "consultant" for the Falcons back in 2002 but he found that he just couldn't "half-ass" it and spent too much time away from home. He was ready to retire and just spend time with his family in California, and deservedly so. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-12-2006, 10:07 PM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: The meeting with Bethard Yeah I don't think the process went very far. Snyder put out a feeler and Beathard basically said no thanks. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-12-2006, 10:07 PM	#5
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: The meeting with Bethard Bethard and Joe Gibbs dont like each other. If I remember correctly, Gibbs threatened to quit if Bethard was not let go. The next year Gibbs retired. Bethard and Gibbs beef was, Gibbs liked to play his veterans and Bethard wanted to play the young guys. Who would have guessed Gibbs was like that. So, no one starts calling me a Gibbs hater, I still would rather have Gibbs for at least three more losing seasons, before I would fire him.

11-12-2006, 10:10 PM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: The meeting with Bethard The Beathard talk came when Spurrier was here, not Gibbs. TWT 1/17 -- Spurrier, Snyder may differ on GM Here was what Beathard had to say about it: “To be candid, I’m really in between [being interested and not being interested],” Beathard said. “I had a good time with Dan Snyder. I was comfortable with him. He was different than what I had read. But I’m not sure how I feel right now. I’ve become a Redskins fan again. I’m thrilled they got Steve. I’m not sure if I want to get back in now. If I feel I could make the commitment, I would. I’ll probably talk with them again, but I just don’t know right now.” __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-12-2006, 10:12 PM	#7
Citizens for 81 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 51 Posts: 410	Re: The meeting with Bethard Bethard would have fit in good here. He used to toss draft picks away left and right. The only difference is he could get something in return.

11-12-2006, 10:17 PM	#8
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: The meeting with Bethard You are right, in many ways. He screwed up alot of high draft picks, except for Monk and Green. But, he made many late round steals. He also brought in Gibbs and made many great teams.

11-13-2006, 08:05 AM	#9
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 40 Posts: 896	Re: The meeting with Bethard I mentioned this in another thread, but I don't think Gibbs would have had nearly as much success without Bethard

11-13-2006, 08:35 AM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: The meeting with Bethard Bobby Beathard's relationship was tense with a lot of people, not just Gibbs. He didn't get along with Pardee, or with Bobby Ross either. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-13-2006, 08:51 AM	#12
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: The meeting with Bethard any ideas on why he was so tough to work with? or just different philosophies on the way things were to be done? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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