Cheney treated like others, angry about it

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Maybe because the Dems never admitted to loosing an election and has done everting to go after this aministration with the help of the liberal press.

Eh?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Seems to me the answer to the whole marriage issue is just that. The gov should get out of the marriage busniess all together. No telling one group they can't marry and no recognizing marriage in any way other than a religious thing.

Get rid of 'legal marriage' and simply institute some type of civil union. A union between any two people or whatever sex and or relationship. Give it the current tax benefits of legal marriage and have a nice day. Move on to something else more important like sealing our borders to terrorists.

I definitely agree.

Isn't there more pressing issues out there than same sex marriages??

It's nothing more than a hot button issue they use to distract people from the real issues.

[dmek25]

thats why i don't get the whole congress involvement in the baseball, steroids thing. or the schiavo case

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by dmek25

thats why i don't get the whole congress involvement in the baseball, steroids thing. or the schiavo case

Do you like the welfare program? How about social security?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Eh?

What you don't think the press is liberal? In a poll of how they vote about 78% (not sure of the real number just that it was in the 70%) voted dem..

[TheMalcolmConnection]

No, I didn't understand what you said.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

But now I do, and while I agree with what was said above that every administration is gone after by the media, this particular administration is very deserving.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

To me, and I very well could be wrong, it seems like the media went after Clinton harder for catching a BJ than they have gone after Bush for getting the US involved in Vietnam 2.0: the Reckoning. Maybe the fact that Congress was able to actually impeach Clinton for purgery had something to do with it, but at least the man didn't start a war that seems more likely to create new terrorists than get rid of the old ones.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, talk about your bad ideas.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

I think the media bias is really all about who you watch though. Firstdown is probably right in that the majority of the media has a left wing bias, but just look at Fox News for the polar opposite.
On the Daily Show (shows how much I really follow things) yesterday they were commenting on Fox News' real-time approval rating for Bush's State of the Union speech. According to about 85% Fox News viewers his speech was considered Excellent. As Jon Stewart put it, "those are Stalin-esque numbers." Plus, listen to guys like Bill O'Reilly when you want to say that everyone on TV is a left-winger.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

To me, and I very well could be wrong, it seems like the media went after Clinton harder for catching a BJ than they have gone after Bush for getting the US involved in Vietnam 2.0: the Reckoning. Maybe the fact that Congress was able to actually impeach Clinton for purgery had something to do with it, but at least the man didn't start a war that seems more likely to create new terrorists than get rid of the old ones.

Give me a break about Vietnam there is no comparison between the two.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

To me, and I very well could be wrong, it seems like the media went after Clinton harder for catching a BJ than they have gone after Bush for getting the US involved in Vietnam 2.0: the Reckoning. Maybe the fact that Congress was able to actually impeach Clinton for purgery had something to do with it, but at least the man didn't start a war that seems more likely to create new terrorists than get rid of the old ones.

I tend to think just about anything we do is going to make more terrorists.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I tend to think just about anything we do is going to make more terrorists.

Sadly, I think you're right. The world is getting smaller in terms of living space and there are so many fundamental difference between people that someone is always going to be pissed off about something.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Do you like the welfare program? How about social security?

aren't these pertinent issues to the welfare of our country? is steroids in baseball?

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by dmek25

aren't these pertinent issues to the welfare of our country? is steroids in baseball?

Lots of people consider steroids an 'issue to the the welfare of our country'. A strong case has been made (by people on both sides of the aisle) that as role models, steroid use by players sends a bad message (read, influence) to kids.