AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

[MTK]

I think this article is twisting his words a bit and trying to make a story out of nothing. I don't see where Gibbs directly says that he doubts a draftee could start.

I think more than anything he's trying to show his support and faith in his current personnel. He's simply saying that competition will be tough for any rookie who comes in, he'll have to earn his spot just like anyone else.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think this article is twisting his words a bit and trying to make a story out of nothing. I don't see where Gibbs directly says that he doubts a draftee could start.

I think more than anything he's trying to show his support and faith in his current personnel. He's simply saying that competition will be tough for any rookie who comes in, he'll have to earn his spot just like anyone else.

Yes, I think that Gibbs was actually saying that when they draft somebody in the first round, they could possibly start in a year.

[gibbs4life]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think this article is twisting his words a bit and trying to make a story out of nothing. I don't see where Gibbs directly says that he doubts a draftee could start.

I think more than anything he's trying to show his support and faith in his current personnel. He's simply saying that competition will be tough for any rookie who comes in, he'll have to earn his spot just like anyone else.

yeah i saw that in my local paper too they have a way od twisting things don,t they matty
thats the idea i had too looking thru the article on what joe said..

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think this article is twisting his words a bit and trying to make a story out of nothing. I don't see where Gibbs directly says that he doubts a draftee could start.

I think more than anything he's trying to show his support and faith in his current personnel. He's simply saying that competition will be tough for any rookie who comes in, he'll have to earn his spot just like anyone else.

I don't know matty...this is pretty convincing:

"You'd love to have a guy who can make an immediate impact," Gibbs said. "But to be quite truthful, you look at our football team, where could a player step in here right now and say: 'I'm taking over'? Where is that? That makes us feel good. I don't feel panicked that we have to take any one thing. It's hard to say that somebody would just step into any position right now."

I don't think anything is being twisted. As they point out, we had the worst D in the NFC last year, and won only 5 games yet only adding 2 real good players in Fletcher and Smoot. How would Landry not start? How would a DE (any DE) not start?
I get the point of Gibbs comments in trying to show confidence in his players, but he just showed a lack of confidence to every player that might be drafted for us. If I was, say, Okoye, and I just heard Gibbs say that...I'm wishing and hoping to not be drafted by the Skins. No one wants to ride the pine out of college.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I don't know matty...this is pretty convincing:

"You'd love to have a guy who can make an immediate impact," Gibbs said. "But to be quite truthful, you look at our football team, where could a player step in here right now and say: 'I'm taking over'? Where is that? That makes us feel good. I don't feel panicked that we have to take any one thing. It's hard to say that somebody would just step into any position right now."

I don't think anything is being twisted. As they point out, we had the worst D in the NFC last year, and won only 5 games yet only adding 2 real good players in Fletcher and Smoot. How would Landry not start? How would a DE (any DE) not start?

I get the point of Gibbs comments in trying to show confidence in his players, but he just showed a lack of confidence to every player that might be drafted for us. If I was, say, Okoye, and I just heard Gibbs say that...I'm wishing and hoping to not be drafted by the Skins. No one wants to ride the pine out of college.

Again, I don't see where he's saying specifically, I doubt a rookie can come in and start. More than anything he's saying he feels good in the team as is. He's saying they have a lot of options, and whoever comes in will have to earn his spot.

I guess you can take it either way, but I just think the negative slant this writer is trying to give doesn't make much sense.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Again, I don't see where he's saying specifically, I doubt a rookie can come in and start. More than anything he's saying he feels good in the team as is. He's saying they have a lot of options, and whoever comes in will have to earn his spot.

I guess you can take it either way, but I just think the negative slant this writer is trying to give doesn't make much sense.

Well, you have to look at it from their prospective. When someone is up, kick em til they are down...and when someone is down, kick em to keep em down. Negativity sells.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think this article is twisting his words a bit and trying to make a story out of nothing. I don't see where Gibbs directly says that he doubts a draftee could start.

I think more than anything he's trying to show his support and faith in his current personnel. He's simply saying that competition will be tough for any rookie who comes in, he'll have to earn his spot just like anyone else.

I listened to the press conference on the Redskins web site. And he basically said that it would be real tough for any player in the draft to come in as a rookie and start. I kind of raised my eye brows a bit cause I could think of several players that could walk in and start at DE, SS, and WR. But he did happen to point out that Goldston and Montgomery were basically living in the weight room, and that those two were "way ahead" of where they were last year. So that was real good to hear.

[offiss]

No way Gibbs could have said anything of the sort! LOL! The GIG team is hard at work with damage control again.

How on earth can anyone say a rookie DL couldn't start over basically nobody? How could someone make an argument to draft one of these DL as most here have been doing for the last 3 months, and then say the guy is to stupid to start his first year? We are talking DL here not QB, not center, and not MLB, these are positions of athletic ablity and power, not brains.

The very fact that Gibbs thinks we are loaded everywhere just shows how dumb he is when it comes to identifying talent. Gibbs has a one track mind rookies can't help so lets sit them regardless of whether they can play or not. Rookies contribute all over the league, other coaches get them prepaired to contribute on playoff caliber teams, but I am to believe we are so good at 5-11 that theres no room for improvment by playing a rookie? 3 months worth of posts on this board of people screaming we can't stop the run, and all of a sudden big time Anthony Montgomery is the answer?

I am curious why anyone would think Gibbs didn't say that? He's pretty much said nothing but with his actions since his return. All he wants to do is bring in veteran talent, he has no desire to have to teach a rookie how to play in the NFL.

[GMScud]

I think QB is the only position where a player taken in the top 5-6 picks shouldn't start right away. It seems kind of contradictory- "we want a perennial pro-bowler," and "whoever we draft most likely won't start." Looking at all positions other than QB, most draft picks taken in the top 5-10 usually start right away. I don't really understand what Gibbs is saying.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think QB is the only position where a player taken in the top 5-6 picks shouldn't start right away. It seems kind of contradictory- "we want a perennial pro-bowler," and "whoever we draft most likely won't start." Looking at all positions other than QB, most draft picks taken in the top 5-10 usually start right away. I don't really understand what Gibbs is saying.

Where does he say 'whoever we draft most likely won't start'??

I'm still trying to figure out where this is coming from.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Where does he say 'whoever we draft most likely won't start'??

I'm still trying to figure out where this is coming from.

From today's article in the Post:

"Gibbs said that he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins, regardless of position, and that the club could still address some needs, such as along the defensive line, on the second day of the draft, citing linemen Kedric Golston and Anthony Montgomery, who were late-round selections last year..."

It doesn't say they absolutely WON'T start, but it's not a ringing endorsement either. Maybe he's just using that language so no draft pick will get the idea that they won't have to bust their tail to earn a starting spot. I guess I was a little off. But it's not secret Gibbs doesn't like to start rookies.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by GMScud

From today's article in the Post:

"Gibbs said that he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins, regardless of position, and that the club could still address some needs, such as along the defensive line, on the second day of the draft, citing linemen Kedric Golston and Anthony Montgomery, who were late-round selections last year..."

It doesn't say they absolutely WON'T start, but it's not a ringing endorsement either. Maybe he's just using that language so no draft pick will get the idea that they won't have to bust their tail to earn a starting spot. I guess I was a little off. But it's not secret Gibbs doesn't like to start rookies.

no coach would come out and say that players in the draft are so much better than whats on his team. if you say that Johnson or peterson, two of the best players in the draft, would start right away, and you dotn get them, how should your current players feel?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

From today's article in the Post:

"Gibbs said that he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins, regardless of position, and that the club could still address some needs, such as along the defensive line, on the second day of the draft, citing linemen Kedric Golston and Anthony Montgomery, who were late-round selections last year..."

It doesn't say they absolutely WON'T start, but it's not a ringing endorsement either. Maybe he's just using that language so no draft pick will get the idea that they won't have to bust their tail to earn a starting spot. I guess I was a little off. But it's not secret Gibbs doesn't like to start rookies.

Regardless, I wouldn't read too deep in to what he said.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Where does he say 'whoever we draft most likely won't start'??

I'm still trying to figure out where this is coming from.

JLC also talked about it on his blog today on RedskinsInsider.
I clipped this (It's not the whole column):

"Was wondering what you guys thought of the idea posited by the Skins on Tuesday that there was probably no one in the draft who could earn a starting job on their roster out of training camp.
Have to say that while I am all for a bit of gamesmanship this time of year, and like we addressed yesterday, we fully understand that teams are going to make statements of varying degrees of legitimacy before the draft - and that's all well and good ... but this one immediately raised my eyebrows..."