Simeon Rice released by Bucs then Broncos. Now a Colt.

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Umm, Simms, in 3 games had 1 td and 7 int's last year before his injury. The year before he had 10 tds and 7 ints in 11 games. I don't call that "into his own".
Gradkowski had 9 tds and 9 ints in 14 games last year...that sucks.
Garcia, well, if you take away last year (10 tds, 2 ints in 8 games) he had 13 tds and 15 ints the previous 2 seasons (17 games). Seriously, who would you rather have Garcia (past his prime and 37) or Culpepper (had one of the greatest football seasons ever)?
Plummer, well, I don't quite get him. He's only 32, and he's thrown for the same amount of tds as ints. (161) In 10 years, he has only thrown for over 3k yards 4 times. Plummer has never been a pro bowler either. No one knows if he's playing or not either.

Honestly I would rather have Garcia. This is a "What have you done for me lately?" league. And all stats aside Simms was getting it done the year before last. and Gradkowski was only a rookie last year. I say that they have a great bench in terms of experience down the depth chart. Let Garcia run the offense for a couple more years, then lets Simms have it back for 2 or 3 seasons and by then Gradkowski should be ready.


Honestly I do not care other wise, but adding Culpepper just seems silly.

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Originally Posted by angryssg

Honestly I would rather have Garcia. This is a "What have you done for me lately?" league. And all stats aside Simms was getting it done the year before last. and Gradkowski was only a rookie last year. I say that they have a great bench in terms of experience down the depth chart. Let Garcia run the offense for a couple more years, then lets Simms have it back for 2 or 3 seasons and by then Gradkowski should be ready.


Honestly I do not care other wise, but adding Culpepper just seems silly.

So let me get this straight, by your standards, this is how the it will go down:
Garcia 07, & 08.
Simms 09, 10, 11. (benched at the age of 31)
Gradkowski takes over in 2012?
Do you really think that could even remotely pan out? Even worse, I don't think any of those players can win it. Garcia has proven that he needs to have a fantastic team to win, he doesn't have that in Tampa.
I'd take Culpepper in a heart beat over those bums.

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Originally Posted by jsarno

So let me get this straight, by your standards, this is how the it will go down:
Garcia 07, & 08.
Simms 09, 10, 11. (benched at the age of 31)
Gradkowski takes over in 2012?
Do you really think that could even remotely pan out? Even worse, I don't think any of those players can win it. Garcia has proven that he needs to have a fantastic team to win, he doesn't have that in Tampa.
I'd take Culpepper in a heart beat over those bums.

Well, Simms would be released or traded by 31, but yeah to each his own and thats my evaluation. What do you mean they cannot win it? All they need is to manage the game and not lose it with a solid running game and a defense. Look at Trent Dilfer and Ben Rothlisburger. I am not saying that Ben is a bad QB, but he didn't have to win games with his arm.

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Originally Posted by angryssg

Well, Simms would be released or traded by 31, but yeah to each his own and thats my evaluation. What do you mean they cannot win it? All they need is to manage the game and not lose it with a solid running game and a defense. Look at Trent Dilfer and Ben Rothlisburger. I am not saying that Ben is a bad QB, but he didn't have to win games with his arm.

Well, Trent had one of the best defenses of all time.
Ben had a good year in 05, 62.7% comp, 17tds and only 9 ints in 13 games. While he didn't "win it with his arm", he did a good job. Also, while his SB performance sucked, he threw for 6 tds and only 1 int in the 3 postseason games.
Tampa doesn't have those types of teams, and Roethlisberger is better than all of those guys (and I correctly labelled Ben as overrated before he faltered)

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, Trent had one of the best defenses of all time.
Ben had a good year in 05, 62.7% comp, 17tds and only 9 ints in 13 games. While he didn't "win it with his arm", he did a good job. Also, while his SB performance sucked, he threw for 6 tds and only 1 int in the 3 postseason games.
Tampa doesn't have those types of teams, and Roethlisberger is better than all of those guys (and I correctly labelled Ben as overrated before he faltered)

Tampa Bay isn't that far off from being one of those teams. Even in their last SB appearance it was the strength of their Defense and running game that got them there. They just need to reload the Defense a little. They already have a solid running game.