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Old 08-07-2007, 09:00 AM   #1
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And you're thinking that Bramlet is the guy to turn this around...even though he has 0 NFL experience?
No. I'm not saying he is the guy to turn anything around. All I'm saying is from what I saw just from two practices he looks better than Brunell and Palmer. Now I'm not saying he is a great QB or anything. Hell, he may suck. But the point I'm trying to make is why is it that so many guys on a 5-11 team have their positions nailed down? Can someone ask me why we have no competition at the back-up qb position? If we had any other coaching staff I bet there would be.

Also at WR. ARE, Lloyd and Thrash should all be battleling for the #2. No one on the roster has proven they can be a #2. But it's reported that it's ARE job. For what? Did Goldston show enough to be nailed down as the stater for the other DT opposite Griff? Hell no he didn't. So again that job should be open for competition.
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No. I'm not saying he is the guy to turn anything around. All I'm saying is from what I saw just from two practices he looks better than Brunell and Palmer. Now I'm not saying he is a great QB or anything. Hell, he may suck. But the point I'm trying to make is why is it that so many guys on a 5-11 team have their positions nailed down? Can someone ask me why we have no competition at the back-up qb position? If we had any other coaching staff I bet there would be.

Also at WR. ARE, Lloyd and Thrash should all be battleling for the #2. No one on the roster has proven they can be a #2. But it's reported that it's ARE job. For what? Did Goldston show enough to be nailed down as the stater for the other DT opposite Griff? Hell no he didn't. So again that job should be open for competition.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:14 PM   #3
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Re: Report: Redskins Release Casey Bramlet

We all know 5 years ago MB was a good NFL qb. But I'm talking about TODAY. THE PRESENT.

If an NFL qb can't throw a 15 yard out then it's time to hang it up. And from what I saw he can't throw the ball with any velocity what so ever. I'm not the only one saying it. Some of the beat reporters that cover the team and watch all the practices are saying the same thing.
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No. I'm not saying he is the guy to turn anything around. All I'm saying is from what I saw just from two practices he looks better than Brunell and Palmer. Now I'm not saying he is a great QB or anything. Hell, he may suck. But the point I'm trying to make is why is it that so many guys on a 5-11 team have their positions nailed down? Can someone ask me why we have no competition at the back-up qb position? If we had any other coaching staff I bet there would be.

Also at WR. ARE, Lloyd and Thrash should all be battleling for the #2. No one on the roster has proven they can be a #2. But it's reported that it's ARE job. For what? Did Goldston show enough to be nailed down as the stater for the other DT opposite Griff? Hell no he didn't. So again that job should be open for competition.
First off ARE is only listed as the 2nd because that where he ended at last year which has been explained several times. Second you are basicaly saying that our coaching staff including Gibbs have no clue on how to coach a football team.
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First off ARE is only listed as the 2nd because that where he ended at last year which has been explained several times. Second you are basicaly saying that our coaching staff including Gibbs have no clue on how to coach a football team.
Hey, he did go to 2 practices.

C'mon now.
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Hey, he did go to 2 practices.

C'mon now.
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First off ARE is only listed as the 2nd because that where he ended at last year which has been explained several times. Second you are basicaly saying that our coaching staff including Gibbs have no clue on how to coach a football team.
Not only that, but per NFL rules all teams must submit their depth charts to the league prior to the first preseason game (I'm pretty sure it's the first preseason game).

Why that's a rule, I don't really know. I think it's primarily for media purposes actually. But every team has to submit it. Just about everyone knows rankings are subject to change and, like you pointed out, it's often just the way the depth chart was at the end of the previous season. But it's required.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:31 PM   #9
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First off ARE is only listed as the 2nd because that where he ended at last year which has been explained several times. Second you are basicaly saying that our coaching staff including Gibbs have no clue on how to coach a football team.
Did I ever say the coaches had no clue how to coach?? NO! I just think they need to open up the competiton at several positions. Don't you??? Very few guys should be comfortable coming off a 5-11 season.

Do you remember how Eric Mangini handled the Jets last year? He didn't even tell anyone who his starting qb was until the end of pre-season. He basically opened up all positions and may the best man win. Sorry but I like that. There isn't all the BS politics. It's all about playing the best players.

1. Why is Brunell being handed the backup job coming off major shoulder surgery and a bad season where he couldn't throw a pass over 10 yards?

2. I like Rocky M. but it seems that he was just handed the job because of the pressure from the media. Didn't Marshall play that positon real well in 04? Why is he being punished for playing out of position?

3. Where is the competition at kicker??????????? Sushium hasn't earned the right not to have competition. He isn't David Ackers. Simply ridicules!

4. Why is Goldston being named the starter already?

5. Why in the world is Daniels being handed a job?? WTF has he done to earn that right?

6. Who are our two starting corners? Should Springs be handed a starting spots just cause he is the oldest? Hell no. Let the top 3-4 guys compete for the top two positions.
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Did I ever say the coaches had no clue how to coach?? NO! I just think they need to open up the competiton at several positions. Don't you??? Very few guys should be comfortable coming off a 5-11 season.

Do you remember how Eric Mangini handled the Jets last year? He didn't even tell anyone who his starting qb was until the end of pre-season. He basically opened up all positions and may the best man win. Sorry but I like that. There isn't all the BS politics. It's all about playing the best players.

1. Why is Brunell being handed the backup job coming off major shoulder surgery and a bad season where he couldn't throw a pass over 10 yards?

2. I like Rocky M. but it seems that he was just handed the job because of the pressure from the media. Didn't Marshall play that positon real well in 04? Why is he being punished for playing out of position?

3. Where is the competition at kicker??????????? Sushium hasn't earned the right not to have competition. He isn't David Ackers. Simply ridicules!

4. Why is Goldston being named the starter already?

5. Why in the world is Daniels being handed a job?? WTF has he done to earn that right?

6. Who are our two starting corners? Should Springs be handed a starting spots just cause he is the oldest? Hell no. Let the top 3-4 guys compete for the top two positions.

I think that there is a long way to go this preseason. There are a few jobs that are a no brainer as far as who the starter is, but not all. I think the coaches are experienced enough to evaluate the teams talent for the entire offseason/preseason and put the best player in each position for week one. The competition is ongoing, believe that.
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Old 08-07-2007, 03:29 PM   #11
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Did I ever say the coaches had no clue how to coach?? NO! I just think they need to open up the competiton at several positions. Don't you??? Very few guys should be comfortable coming off a 5-11 season.

Do you remember how Eric Mangini handled the Jets last year? He didn't even tell anyone who his starting qb was until the end of pre-season. He basically opened up all positions and may the best man win. Sorry but I like that. There isn't all the BS politics. It's all about playing the best players.

1. Why is Brunell being handed the backup job coming off major shoulder surgery and a bad season where he couldn't throw a pass over 10 yards?

2. I like Rocky M. but it seems that he was just handed the job because of the pressure from the media. Didn't Marshall play that positon real well in 04? Why is he being punished for playing out of position?

3. Where is the competition at kicker??????????? Sushium hasn't earned the right not to have competition. He isn't David Ackers. Simply ridicules!

4. Why is Goldston being named the starter already?

5. Why in the world is Daniels being handed a job?? WTF has he done to earn that right?

6. Who are our two starting corners? Should Springs be handed a starting spots just cause he is the oldest? Hell no. Let the top 3-4 guys compete for the top two positions.
Well I can sum this up pretty easily.
Either you trust in the decades and decades of experience that Gibbs / Saunders / GW / Bugel bring to the table, or you don't. I know football, and I know it well, but I most certainly will bow to their knowledge over mine. They see these guys day in and day out, we do not. They know better than we do, plain and simple.
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1. Why is Brunell being handed the backup job coming off major shoulder surgery and a bad season where he couldn't throw a pass over 10 yards?
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C'mon Tripp. How about I show video of 2004 when Brunell was the worst QB in football? How about I show video of the last part of 05 when and the playoffs when Brunell looked like a frail old man and couldn't even throw for 50 yards? Or, how about I show video of Philly last year when Brunell threw a dead duck in the flat that got picked off for a TD? Remember that one?

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C'mon Tripp. How about I show video of 2004 when Brunell was the worst QB in football? How about I show video of the last part of 05 when and the playoffs when Brunell looked like a frail old man and couldn't even throw for 50 yards? Or, how about I show video of Philly last year when Brunell threw a dead duck in the flat that got picked off for a TD? Remember that one?

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No. I'm not saying he is the guy to turn anything around. All I'm saying is from what I saw just from two practices he looks better than Brunell and Palmer. Now I'm not saying he is a great QB or anything. Hell, he may suck. But the point I'm trying to make is why is it that so many guys on a 5-11 team have their positions nailed down? Can someone ask me why we have no competition at the back-up qb position? If we had any other coaching staff I bet there would be.
Any coaching staff would be a bunch of morons to back up a green qb with an even MORE green qb, then round it off with another green qb.
We / the coaching staff, made the decision to make Campbell the starting QB. That decision has been set in stone. Now they need to surround him with MENTORS, not rookies.
I'm sorry, you can not, nor will not convince me that Bramlet is a better back up than Brunell, especially considering that Brunell is a former pro bowler and knows Saunder's system. The coaching factor alone makes him more valuable than Bramlet, not to mention the fact that Brunell is under contract and to release him would create a huge cap hit.
To make matters worse, you saw him for only 2 PRACTICES and think he's better? You can not assess ANYONE in 2 practices. And I seriously doubt you know better than all the NFL scouts that wanted nothing to do with Bramlet.

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Also at WR. ARE, Lloyd and Thrash should all be battleling for the #2. No one on the roster has proven they can be a #2. But it's reported that it's ARE job. For what? Did Goldston show enough to be nailed down as the stater for the other DT opposite Griff? Hell no he didn't. So again that job should be open for competition.
Thrash? ARE and Lloyd have more talent than Thrash, if we give the #2 to thrash, might as well send Campbell out there naked. People need to use their head in making decisions, this is why Thrash will not be considered for the #2 spot. If ARE and Lloyd fail again, then we need a newcomer, not Thrash. You work on these players for a year and an offseason, you need to give them the chance.
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