Atlanta Solves QB Problem, Books Super Bowl Tickets

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not that its going to change for him now.

Just because I lovingly refer to Harrington as the "worst QB in the history of the NFL" (lovingly) for his continued oppertunitiy and failure, does not mean that he's so bad that he couldn't come to a good team who lacked a QB and start winning games. Atlanta though is not a good team by any stretch of the imagination.

Jerious Norwood is just a bowling ball of potential in that backfield though.

I don't think you love Joey nearly as much as you say.

No, I do agree with you as far as he's not going to be a bad caretaker qb. I just think he gets a bum rap when his only opportunities in the NFL came with the JV Squad. I am very interested to see who has the better year, Joey Harrington or Matt Schaub. If I had to say right now, I think Harrington will have the better year, both statswise and in W-L's.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I don't think you love Joey nearly as much as you say.

No, I do agree with you as far as he's not going to be a bad caretaker qb. I just think he gets a bum rap when his only opportunities in the NFL came with the JV Squad. I am very interested to see who has the better year, Joey Harrington or Matt Schaub. If I had to say right now, I think Harrington will have the better year, both statswise and in W-L's.

I think Schaub is a way, way better player with a slightly better team. I'd put a lot of money on Schaub if it was him vs. Harrington.

Harrington is a constant. You know what you get in him, a not so great QB who has the NFL experience to not make the wrong move all the time (anymore). There's a certain amount of room for scouting error in regards to Schaub, but all of his periphrials, both college and limited pro, look really really good.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think Schaub is a way, way better player with a slightly better team. I'd put a lot of money on Schaub if it was him vs. Harrington.

Harrington is a constant. You know what you get in him, a not so great QB who has the NFL experience to not make the wrong move all the time (anymore). There's a certain amount of room for scouting error in regards to Schaub, but all of his periphrials, both college and limited pro, look really really good.

Long term, again, I agree with you. This year though, I think the Falcons could end up 8-8, whereas the Texans will be lucky to get to 5-11.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Long term, again, I agree with you. This year though, I think the Falcons could end up 8-8, whereas the Texans will be lucky to get to 5-11.

The Texans are a way better team with repect to this season.

Neither team has much defensively. It really comes down the the Quarterback play, and the schedule. Schaub is no rookie, he's a 4th year guy. Even adjusting for schedule and running game, theres absoultely no way Joey Harrington can be three wins better than Schaub.

7-9 for Houston, 4 or 5 wins for Atlanta. Both teams could be better if either develops a defense.

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The Texans are a way better team with repect to this season.

Neither team has much defensively. It really comes down the the Quarterback play, and the schedule. Schaub is no rookie, he's a 4th year guy. Even adjusting for schedule and running game, theres absoultely no way Joey Harrington can be three wins better than Schaub.

7-9 for Houston, 4 or 5 wins for Atlanta. Both teams could be better if either develops a defense.

lol. this is normally where the put your money where your mouth is conversation starts.

Houston was 28th in the league in Offense in 06, ATL was 12th.
This despite the fact that ATL was DEAD LAST in passing (because Mike Vick passes about as well as he bets on dogs.) The running game is going to fall off a bit because of Vick's absence, but in his place they have Dunn and Norwood. And they still have that Oline. Harrington is NOT the savior but imho he's a much better passer than vick was. Add to that the fact that they're bringing in Petrino at coach who will be very imaginative in his game planning. On the other hand...Kubiak is a run first coach, and his starting tailback is Ahman Green who's best days are, again imho, looong behind him. That houston O-line doesn't scare anyone. If they're win, it's going to be Schaub to Andre Johnson and I don't think that's enough to account for a weak running game unless Kubiak drastically changes his style.

On defense, Houston was ranked 24th overall, ATL was only marginally better at 22nd. Atlanta was alot better at stopping the run while Houston was superior in passing d. HOU upgraded their dline by drafting Okoye at DT which could conceivably improve their rushing d while ATL drafted Jammaal Anderson at DE and Chris Houston at CB to improve their passing d. I could see the Texans having the better D overall this year. But not by much.

In the NFC South, the Falcons face Carolina, Tampa Bay and New Orleans. I think TB is going to suck this year, Carolina and NO are big question marks. I see them going 4-4 in their division.

In the AFC South, the Texans have Indy, Jacksonville and Tennessee. I don't see them doing any better than 3-5 in division.

Out of division, Falcons have Minnesota, jacksonville, houston, tennessee, NYG, Indy, St louis, Arizona, seattle and san fran. I see maybe 4-5 wins there (AZ, NYG, HOU, MN and maybe TN)

For their out of div sched, Texans face Carolina, KC, ATL, MIA, SD, OAK, CLV, TB, Denver and New Orleans. I can see them with 3-4 wins (MIA, OAK, CLV and mabye TB.)

So, that's how I get ATL at 8-8 or 9-7, HOU at 6-10.

I guess I came your way a bit on Hou's record...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

lol. this is normally where the put your money where your mouth is conversation starts.

Houston was 28th in the league in Offense in 06, ATL was 12th.
This despite the fact that ATL was DEAD LAST in passing (because Mike Vick passes about as well as he bets on dogs.) The running game is going to fall off a bit because of Vick's absence, but in his place they have Dunn and Norwood. And they still have that Oline. Harrington is NOT the savior but imho he's a much better passer than vick was. Add to that the fact that they're bringing in Petrino at coach who will be very imaginative in his game planning. On the other hand...Kubiak is a run first coach, and his starting tailback is Ahman Green who's best days are, again imho, looong behind him. That houston O-line doesn't scare anyone. If they're win, it's going to be Schaub to Andre Johnson and I don't think that's enough to account for a weak running game unless Kubiak drastically changes his style.

On defense, Houston was ranked 24th overall, ATL was only marginally better at 22nd. Atlanta was alot better at stopping the run while Houston was superior in passing d. HOU upgraded their dline by drafting Okoye at DT which could conceivably improve their rushing d while ATL drafted Jammaal Anderson at DE and Chris Houston at CB to improve their passing d. I could see the Texans having the better D overall this year. But not by much.

In the NFC South, the Falcons face Carolina, Tampa Bay and New Orleans. I think TB is going to suck this year, Carolina and NO are big question marks. I see them going 4-4 in their division.

In the AFC South, the Texans have Indy, Jacksonville and Tennessee. I don't see them doing any better than 3-5 in division.

Out of division, Falcons have Minnesota, jacksonville, houston, tennessee, NYG, Indy, St louis, Arizona, seattle and san fran. I see maybe 4-5 wins there (AZ, NYG, HOU, MN and maybe TN)

For their out of div sched, Texans face Carolina, KC, ATL, MIA, SD, OAK, CLV, TB, Denver and New Orleans. I can see them with 3-4 wins (MIA, OAK, CLV and mabye TB.)

So, that's how I get ATL at 8-8 or 9-7, HOU at 6-10.

I guess I came your way a bit on Hou's record...

Harrington's definately better than Vick at throwing the football. Thing is, with Vick, there was no such thing as offensive futility. There was no situation in which he couldn't scramble for at least one first down if he had to. With Harrington, offensive futility is a very real possibility.

Harrington is pretty much who people around here think Brunell is.