Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins

SFREDSKIN · 08-23-2007, 05:41 PM

These guys don't know squat, all these so called experts are idiots. Anybody betting against Gibbs coached teams is an idiot. Look at the power Gibbs has as a motivator, a few weeks ago he intervened on a feud by his drivers and what happens? Tony Stewart goes to win the next 3 out of 4 races, mark my words Joe Gibbs will regain the respect as the best coach after this year. The final piece to the puzzle was added when they traded for Kendall today. GO SKINS!!!

That Guy · 08-23-2007, 05:57 PM

our oline and #2 WR are questionable right now, QB hasn't lit it up yet, and the DL is still fairly weak.

we have a chance to do alright, but we're not coming into this season like SD indy or NE.

Beemnseven · 08-23-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

what would you like these guys to say. what would be the right thing for you all? 11-5, 12-4, deep playoff run?? come on, be real. I HOPE we go 10-6, 11-5 but realistically can we feel confident is saying that. the norm for this franchise the past 10 years has been sub 500. the exception has been two playoff seasons since 99. The analysts have been somewhat correct in picking where we stand in the NFL for the last 5 or 6 six seasons. These guys have played in the NFL, eat, sleep, and shit football. I dont like to hear sub 500 predictions anymore than you guys, but what have we done lately to prove anyone wrong. the D is a question I dont care how well we play in the preseason. It stunk last year, we made no improvements up front, which has not been good the last two years. Only reason no one mentioned it in 2005 was because we got pressure from other areas. so, upfront we are still the same line as last year. offensively, Campbell is a first year starter, you never know what can happen. he came in last year with no pressure, now he has all the pressure in the world on him. people play differently under different situations related to the amount of pressure they have on them.
You all can't sit here and call them idiots because they dont say things you think you should hear. bottom line, we have not done anything in the past 8+ years to warrant positive feedback from the analysts.

A- friggin' -men.

Reminder for all those offended by Mike & Mike's prediction: THE REDSKINS SUCKED LAST YEAR. We have an unproven youngster at quarterback, our defensive line is old and often injured and the front office did absolutely NOTHING to address it, and our offensive line has taken a step back. So there are legitimate question marks at quarterback, offensive line, and defensive line.

Those factors right there would give just about everyone at this website reason for doubt if it were any other team.

SouperMeister · 08-23-2007, 06:26 PM

Golic probably also picked his Eagles to go 11-5. Mike & Mike obviously haven't seen our D this preseason. With the emergence of McIntosh, the upgrade at SS with Landry, and Fletcher as a steadying influence, I can easily see this defense keeping us in every game as they did in 2004 and 2005. 8-8 might be a reasonable prediction, but I really feel that this team will finish with a winning record if we can just keep Jason Campbell healthy.

dmek25 · 08-23-2007, 06:27 PM

people around here make me laugh. if someone picks us to do well, everyone wants nothing to do with it. if someone picks us to suck, everyone wants to know where the love is. based on last season, 7-9 or 8-8 would be a pretty good guess

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 08-23-2007, 07:00 PM

If you made me predict our record for the upcoming season I'd say 9-7 and that is with some homerism sprinkled in. I'd say 6-10 to 9-7 are "reasonable" predictions to make on this team. Anything more or less is going out on a limb. However, I wouldn't be at all shocked to see us land out of that range. I suppose that is one of the interesting things about this year, I really won't be shocked to see us anywhere when it's all said and done.

4mrusmc · 08-23-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

what would you like these guys to say. what would be the right thing for you all? 11-5, 12-4, deep playoff run?? come on, be real. I HOPE we go 10-6, 11-5 but realistically can we feel confident is saying that. the norm for this franchise the past 10 years has been sub 500. the exception has been two playoff seasons since 99. The analysts have been somewhat correct in picking where we stand in the NFL for the last 5 or 6 six seasons. These guys have played in the NFL, eat, sleep, and shit football. I dont like to hear sub 500 predictions anymore than you guys, but what have we done lately to prove anyone wrong. the D is a question I dont care how well we play in the preseason. It stunk last year, we made no improvements up front, which has not been good the last two years. Only reason no one mentioned it in 2005 was because we got pressure from other areas. so, upfront we are still the same line as last year. offensively, Campbell is a first year starter, you never know what can happen. he came in last year with no pressure, now he has all the pressure in the world on him. people play differently under different situations related to the amount of pressure they have on them.
You all can't sit here and call them idiots because they dont say things you think you should hear. bottom line, we have not done anything in the past 8+ years to warrant positive feedback from the analysts.

Well said 56. Until this team rights the ship, we will continue to get dumped on period. I expect way more than a 5-11 season.

backrow · 08-23-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Just play ball. I think we will do well, I hope we will. It's fun to prove the talking heads wrong (<cough> Sean Salisbury <cough>)

Otherwise, I only care what the media heads say about the Skins when they justify my fanaticism and feed my need to feel superior b/c of the team I back.

If they fail to worship the Skins - regardless of the team's prior missteps, they are simply meaningless hacks with no in-depth knowledge of the Skins' and whose biased Skin bashing is:

1) Evidence of an obsessive homerism for some other less worthy team;

2) Merely a repetition of the opinion of some other nationally syndicated talking heads who haven't done anything in-depth on the Skins; or

3) based on unabashed hatred for a) Daniel Snyder and his "fantasy football" ways; b) Joe Gibbs and his "Christian Core Redskins"; 3) Art Monk (see how all the conspiracies tie in nicely?).

Man, Joe, that is the deepest thinking I've ever seen! Except you have two (3)'s.

atomicnixon · 08-24-2007, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Screw Mike and Mike.

So true. They sit in front of a picture of Julius Jones.

atomicnixon · 08-24-2007, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Skins' always perform better when they are under the radar.

Thats because since 1993 they have permanently been under the radar with the exception of 99 and 05.

SmootSmack · 08-24-2007, 02:28 AM

In fairness, they did also say that they (Golic at least) have seen Jason Campbell every year since his college years and he has matured and improved each year. And they like what they see out of him, but that they don't know that he has enough experience yet to lead this team to a lot of wins. They praised the running game. They had strong positive words about Gibbs, saying he had nothing to prove to anyone, that he'd proven more than enough the first time around. They love the Landry pick.

Overall though, they believe with a young QB, a suspect line, and no true cohesion from year to year the Skins will struggle.

irish · 08-24-2007, 06:32 AM

I think 8-8 would be a great season for the skins. They have a rookie QB (who has a sore knee now) and an O that cant score points. The D has played good but its preseason so you cant make too much out of that. I think the other predictions are on the low side.

chrisl4064 · 08-24-2007, 06:37 AM

lets be honest here, what did you expect them to say after last year....

i personally have my own doubts about this year for us and im not hyping anything up. i do think that mike and mike are a bunch of jackasses who talk out of thier ass, but i dont know of any sportswriters that have us predicted to go to the playoffs either.

He Hate Me · 08-24-2007, 08:32 AM

Golic is just a Philly homer! He doesn't want to give any other team in the division credit except for the Eagles. He's too scared that he wouldn't be able to stuff his fat face safely in Philly with a cheesesteak if he said anything positive about the Skins.

Monkeydad · 08-24-2007, 08:56 AM

I heard this segment and the whole time Golic was talking, I kept saying "you must not have seen our D!" He said he's looking forward to seeing Landry and Taylor kill people, but didn't even mention all of the injuries our D had last year when bashing them and never even said the name London Fletcher.

He's not paying attention. I don't mind, we'll surprise a lot of people this year.

08-23-2007, 05:41 PM	#31
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins These guys don't know squat, all these so called experts are idiots. Anybody betting against Gibbs coached teams is an idiot. Look at the power Gibbs has as a motivator, a few weeks ago he intervened on a feud by his drivers and what happens? Tony Stewart goes to win the next 3 out of 4 races, mark my words Joe Gibbs will regain the respect as the best coach after this year. The final piece to the puzzle was added when they traded for Kendall today. GO SKINS!!!

08-23-2007, 05:57 PM	#32
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins our oline and #2 WR are questionable right now, QB hasn't lit it up yet, and the DL is still fairly weak. we have a chance to do alright, but we're not coming into this season like SD indy or NE.

08-23-2007, 06:26 PM	#34
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins Golic probably also picked his Eagles to go 11-5. Mike & Mike obviously haven't seen our D this preseason. With the emergence of McIntosh, the upgrade at SS with Landry, and Fletcher as a steadying influence, I can easily see this defense keeping us in every game as they did in 2004 and 2005. 8-8 might be a reasonable prediction, but I really feel that this team will finish with a winning record if we can just keep Jason Campbell healthy.

08-23-2007, 06:27 PM	#35
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins people around here make me laugh. if someone picks us to do well, everyone wants nothing to do with it. if someone picks us to suck, everyone wants to know where the love is. based on last season, 7-9 or 8-8 would be a pretty good guess __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

08-23-2007, 07:00 PM	#36
TenandSix:Unacceptable Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 331	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins If you made me predict our record for the upcoming season I'd say 9-7 and that is with some homerism sprinkled in. I'd say 6-10 to 9-7 are "reasonable" predictions to make on this team. Anything more or less is going out on a limb. However, I wouldn't be at all shocked to see us land out of that range. I suppose that is one of the interesting things about this year, I really won't be shocked to see us anywhere when it's all said and done.

08-24-2007, 02:28 AM	#41
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins In fairness, they did also say that they (Golic at least) have seen Jason Campbell every year since his college years and he has matured and improved each year. And they like what they see out of him, but that they don't know that he has enough experience yet to lead this team to a lot of wins. They praised the running game. They had strong positive words about Gibbs, saying he had nothing to prove to anyone, that he'd proven more than enough the first time around. They love the Landry pick. Overall though, they believe with a young QB, a suspect line, and no true cohesion from year to year the Skins will struggle. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-24-2007, 06:32 AM	#42
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins I think 8-8 would be a great season for the skins. They have a rookie QB (who has a sore knee now) and an O that cant score points. The D has played good but its preseason so you cant make too much out of that. I think the other predictions are on the low side.

08-24-2007, 06:37 AM	#43
chrisl4064 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lake Travis, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 786	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins lets be honest here, what did you expect them to say after last year.... i personally have my own doubts about this year for us and im not hyping anything up. i do think that mike and mike are a bunch of jackasses who talk out of thier ass, but i dont know of any sportswriters that have us predicted to go to the playoffs either.

08-24-2007, 08:32 AM	#44
He Hate Me Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 30	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins Golic is just a Philly homer! He doesn't want to give any other team in the division credit except for the Eagles. He's too scared that he wouldn't be able to stuff his fat face safely in Philly with a cheesesteak if he said anything positive about the Skins.

08-24-2007, 08:56 AM	#45
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Mike & Mike: low expectations for the Skins I heard this segment and the whole time Golic was talking, I kept saying "you must not have seen our D!" He said he's looking forward to seeing Landry and Taylor kill people, but didn't even mention all of the injuries our D had last year when bashing them and never even said the name London Fletcher. He's not paying attention. I don't mind, we'll surprise a lot of people this year.

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