Classless Coach Belichick

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

I was listening to the John Thompson Show on sports talk 980 and he was saying what I was thinking. Be quiet and play, why beg for mercy. He gave examples of the Skins running the score on the Giants and their 45-0 win against Detroit years back. Why do overpaid men want sports teams to take it easy one them? I am not too fond of the Redskins, obviously, but I really wanted them to beat the crap out of NE. I wanted the Skins D to beat up on Brady. The whole week leading up to it, it was our safties this and our safeties that. How can they let Brady their back up QB score running TDs?

BTW, the example you gave doesn't apply to this situation. The game was not over, maybe the Redskins thought it was but it actually wasn't.

I think you are not getting it right. In this case, crying is more like whining. I have no problem people here whining, but players, come on.

There was a nice little article on what you said on PFT i believe. To discount what you are saying, A Joe Gibbs team WILL NOT humiliate an oponent by running up the score. the Detroit game we ran the ball from mid 3rd quarter until end of the game. When we ran the ball down to the 2, we knelt down so we wouldn't score. The 49ers game from 2005, we didn't throw a pass after mid 3rd quarter, portis didn't touch the ball the 2nd half. and Ramsey played the last quarter or more. I dont want anyone saying Gibbs ran the score up on anyone, never happened, never will. Even if we played NE tomorrow and we up 38-0 in the 3rd, he would sit on the ball. He would not go for revenge, he would show class something the other dickhead knows nothing about.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

There was a nice little article on what you said on PFT i believe. To discount what you are saying, A Joe Gibbs team WILL NOT humiliate an oponent by running up the score. the Detroit game we ran the ball from mid 3rd quarter until end of the game. When we ran the ball down to the 2, we knelt down so we wouldn't score. The 49ers game from 2005, we didn't throw a pass after mid 3rd quarter, portis didn't touch the ball the 2nd half. and Ramsey played the last quarter or more. I dont want anyone saying Gibbs ran the score up on anyone, never happened, never will. Even if we played NE tomorrow and we up 38-0 in the 3rd, he would sit on the ball. He would not go for revenge, he would show class something the other dickhead knows nothing about.

Maybe it's about damn time we start humiliating someone, dontcha think? By the way, Wilbon has nice article about all this too.

washingtonpost.com

[firstdown]

Kind of funny how everyone last week was ticked that Gibbs would sit on the lead and now people are mad because the Pats keep going. When they did but in their 2nd QB they still scored again. I just wish for the days when we can run the score up against anyone.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Kind of funny how everyone last week was ticked that Gibbs would sit on the lead and now people are mad because the Pats keep going. When they did but in their 2nd QB they still scored again. I just wish for the days when we can run the score up against anyone.

I don't think most people care that their backup QB came in and scored. Of course he's going to try to get in the endzone because it's not like he gets that many chances. Hell, if Cassel had been in for the entire 4th and scored 5 TDs I wouldn't care. We should just be embarrassed that our starting defense couldn't stop him.
BUT what is shitty is when Tom Brady is still in the game with 10 minutes to go in the 4th in a shotgun formation with 4 WRs or going for it on 4th down. Like someone mentioned before, that's pretty similar to the ol' ball coach keeping the starters in a preseason game just to score extra TDs. Like I've been saying all along, I just hope someone decides they've had enough of this shit and knocks brady into next week, and I'm just pissed that we weren't the ones to do it.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I don't think most people care that their backup QB came in and scored. Of course he's going to try to get in the endzone because it's not like he gets that many chances. Hell, if Cassel had been in for the entire 4th and scored 5 TDs I wouldn't care. We should just be embarrassed that our starting defense couldn't stop him.
BUT what is shitty is when Tom Brady is still in the game with 10 minutes to go in the 4th in a shotgun formation with 4 WRs or going for it on 4th down. Like someone mentioned before, that's pretty similar to the ol' ball coach keeping the starters in a preseason game just to score extra TDs. Like I've been saying all along, I just hope someone decides they've had enough of this shit and knocks brady into next week, and I'm just pissed that we weren't the ones to do it.

Last time I checked it was Brady's job to go into the game and score points and its the D's job to stop them. Not his fault but D's and to get mad at them for doing so is funny to me. Thats the difference between the Pats coaches, Brady, and the rest of their team is that they want to be perfect all of the time even if the game is pretty much over. Did you see how brady got ticked at the false start when leading by 30 some points or how the coaches got ticked when their kicker muffed a ball out of bounds when leading by 30 some points. If those things would have happened with the Skins and that big of a lead the coaches and players would have laughed it off. THEY DON"T and thats whay they are kicking everyone to the curb and are going to wip the Colts. I just hope some of that attitude rubed off on some of our players or our players watched how they play to be perfect.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

It's simple people: begging for mercy and not wanting to be humiliated are NOT the same.

Belichick humiliated us, and people are upset. What's so hard to understand?

Most of the people arguing for Belichick can only say, "what do you want them to do? Win the game for you? They don't need to show you mercy." Obviously, that's the only argument you can come up with, because there is no justification for humiliation. Why don't you address the real issue (humiliation), instead of making up a new one that you can argue for?

Just quit talking if all you can say is that they don't have to show you mercy. No shit Sherlock. They don't HAVE to show humility either -- but they should. Why don't you tell us why humility isn't important?

[dall-assblows]

if we were the pats you would want as many points as possible.

im not mad at them.

a loss is a loss, we got bent over and raped.

[firstdown]

Maybe they should have made Brady throw with his left arm, tie weights to the feet of lineman, make their running back craw. We had been humiliated way before the forth quarter.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

if we were the pats you would want as many points as possible.

im not mad at them.

a loss is a loss, we got bent over and raped.

If we were up 38-0 going into the 4th quarter and Gibbs still had Campbell in I'd be more than a little pissed because there is no need to leave him in and exposed to major injury in that situation. Like I keep saying, there is no reasonable justification for having brady in at that stage of the game.
At this point I'm not really mad at them either, I'm just really mad that our guys didn't punish belichick for leaving his boy in there.

[dall-assblows]

you remember when we put up 52 on the niners? did we back down at all? i cant remember. to long ago

[SmootSmack]

We did, we ran the ball on something like 23 of the last 25 plays from scrimmage. Including the entire 4th Quarter.

I think Ramsey played the 4th as well as Betts and Cartwright (who were clearly backups in 2005)

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We did, we ran the ball on something like 23 of the last 25 plays from scrimmage. Including the entire 4th Quarter.

I think Ramsey played the 4th as well as Betts and Cartwright (who were clearly backups in 2005)

Yep. Betts came in and ran all over the Niners, so we rested him for Cartwright and he even scored a TD on them. Ramsey ran 3 times (for -3 yards) and passed only once as we tried to run the clock out by running. Unfortunately, they still let us move the ball and score...not great for running the clock out.

[Monkeydad]

NFL - San Francisco 49ers/Washington Redskins Box Score Sunday October 23, 2005 - Yahoo! Sports

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yep. Betts came in and ran all over the Niners, so we rested him for Cartwright and he even scored a TD on them. Ramsey ran 3 times (for -3 yards) and passed only once as we tried to run the clock out by running. Unfortunately, they still let us move the ball and score...not great for running the clock out.

Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent can kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

you remember when we put up 52 on the niners? did we back down at all? i cant remember. to long ago

I was there...

Quite the game... and yes, we put up 52, and did it with class. Lavar tore it up that game...