Cowboys or Giants: Who do you want to win?

[Beemnseven]

From a playoff perspective, I think it would actually be better for the Cowchips to win.

Dallas is taking this division, there's no other way around it. If the Giants win, it only puts them further ahead in the wild card race, which is Washington's only hope.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

From a playoff perspective, I think it would actually be better for the Cowchips to win.

Dallas is taking this division, there's no other way around it. If the Giants win, it only puts them further ahead in the wild card race, which is Washington's only hope.

I'd have to agree. I don't think creating a log jam in the NFC East will work out in Washington's favor, especially considering that they've already dropped a game to the Giants. At best, I see Washington splitting the series with the Cowboys, so I think it'd work out better if the Giants had their typical late season collapse.

And honestly, my hate for the Giants is greater than my hate for the Cowboys. Not much greater, but slightly.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I'd have to agree. I don't think creating a log jam in the NFC East will work out in Washington's favor, especially considering that they've already dropped a game to the Giants. At best, I see Washington splitting the series with the Cowboys, so I think it'd work out better if the Giants had their typical late season collapse.

And honestly, my hate for the Giants is greater than my hate for the Cowboys. Not much greater, but slightly.

It works out best if the g-men beat the pokes AND have their late season collapse!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

It works out best if the g-men beat the pokes AND have their late season collapse!

That scenario only help if the Cowboys also fall apart. I doubt very seriously that both the Cowboys and Giants start playing like crap, and Washington miraculously starts clicking on all cylinders. Washington's best hope for the playoffs is finishing with a better record than the Giants.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

From a playoff perspective, I think it would actually be better for the Cowchips to win.

Dallas is taking this division, there's no other way around it. If the Giants win, it only puts them further ahead in the wild card race, which is Washington's only hope.

I see your point, you're being realistic. but in hoping for the best, i.e. that we win the div., we need the g-men to knock them off.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

From a playoff perspective, I think it would actually be better for the Cowchips to win.

Dallas is taking this division, there's no other way around it. If the Giants win, it only puts them further ahead in the wild card race, which is Washington's only hope.

I'm with you on this one. As painful as it is, the Cowboys winning really helps us the most.

Tightening up the division isn't really that helpful - barring some massive collapse, Dallas is taking the division hands down. Putting the Giants down another NFC East matchup will only help us in the wildcard race.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I'm with you on this one. As painful as it is, the Cowboys winning really helps us the most.

Tightening up the division isn't really that helpful - barring some massive collapse, Dallas is taking the division hands down. Putting the Giants down another NFC East matchup will only help us in the wildcard race.

I disagree that this is a runaway for Dallas. They still have the Giants, Lions, Panthers, and Skins on the road; Redskins, Jets, Packers, and Eagles at home. Not a runaway schedule if you ask me. Maybe the only easy game in there is the Jets, but they'll get better with their new QB too.

I think the goal is to always win the division, and to say that crown belongs to the Cowboys after 8 games is just plain ridiculuous. I will root for the Giants, and for the Skins to take care of business down the road and the division can still be won.

By the way, we still have to beat the Eagles this week.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think the goal is to always win the division, and to say that crown belongs to the Cowboys after 8 games is just plain ridiculuous. I will root for the Giants, and for the Skins to take care of business down the road and the division can still be won.

What we want to happen, and what is likely to happen are two different thing. I'm sure everyone here would be extremely happy if Washington went 7-1 in the last eight games and the Cowboys and Giants went 4-4, but that's not going to happen. Washington has a tougher second half of the season than Dallas, and the Giants are playing ridiculous defense.

[70Chip]

I just hope Romo and Manning can stay healthy.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I disagree that this is a runaway for Dallas. They still have the Giants, Lions, Panthers, and Skins on the road; Redskins, Jets, Packers, and Eagles at home. Not a runaway schedule if you ask me. Maybe the only easy game in there is the Jets, but they'll get better with their new QB too.

I think the goal is to always win the division, and to say that crown belongs to the Cowboys after 8 games is just plain ridiculuous. I will root for the Giants, and for the Skins to take care of business down the road and the division can still be won.

By the way, we still have to beat the Eagles this week.

Yeah, the goal is to win the division, but at a certain point let's be realistic.

In order for us to win the division two things have to happen: Dallas has to pretty much fall apart for the second half of the season, and the Skins have to kick it in to high gear.

Are both those things happening simultaneously impossible? No, of course not. It is, however, highly improbable, given what we know about the first half of the season, that both of those events will occur simultaneously.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Yeah, the goal is to win the division, but at a certain point let's be realistic.

In order for us to win the division two things have to happen: Dallas has to pretty much fall apart for the second half of the season, and the Skins have to kick it in to high gear.

Are both those things happening simultaneously impossible? No, of course not. It is, however, highly improbable, given what we know about the first half of the season, that both of those events will occur simultaneously.

Dallas doesn't have to fall apart, we simply have to beat them twice and beat the Giants in NY. That is all

I think if you want to talk about being realistic, let's not hand the division to Dallas after 8 games.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think if you want to talk about being realistic, let's not hand the division to Dallas after 8 games..

Nobody is "handing" Dallas anything. We're simply stating what we think is most likely. The 'Chips still have to go out and play. Certainly, the season isn't over, and maybe the G-strings and the 'Chips will get a taste of the kind of injuries the Redskins have had to deal with and the odds will even out.

It's just an opinion. I think this is Dallas' year to win the NFC East. If you don't and you think the Skins will win the division crown, then more power to you.

I guess that's why I'm not in the Kool Aid crowd.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Nobody is "handing" Dallas anything. We're simply stating what we think is most likely. The 'Chips still have to go out and play. Certainly, the season isn't over, and maybe the G-strings and the 'Chips will get a taste of the kind of injuries the Redskins have had to deal with and the odds will even out.

It's just an opinion. I think this is Dallas' year to win the NFC East. If you don't and you think the Skins will win the division crown, then more power to you.

I guess that's why I'm not in the Kool Aid crowd.

We? What, do you have a mouse in your pocket?

Actually, I was responding to mheisig who said "barring some massive collapse, Dallas is taking the division hands down."

That, to me, sounds like handing the division to Dallas.

And my counterpoint was simply that if we beat Dallas twice and take care of business otherwise, it won't take a "massive collapse", and they won't run away with it.

That is all.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

From a playoff perspective, I think it would actually be better for the Cowchips to win.

Dallas is taking this division, there's no other way around it. If the Giants win, it only puts them further ahead in the wild card race, which is Washington's only hope.

it hurts sooo bad to say it . . . but i agree

[SC Skins Fan]

I find it impossible to root for anyone in these intradivisional games. Mostly I just hope that the teams beat each other up pretty good. Giants, Cowboys, you could make arguments either way, but I'd probably say the Giants at this point. The teams I'll really be rooting against are Detroit and Tampa Bay. If worse comes to worse hopefully the East can send three teams like last year.