2 Qualms with the loss

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by jamf

Let me add my 2:

Samuels played the worst of the 5 linemen. Overall, they did enough to win but samuels getting beat really cost us.


Campbell was good, Unfortunately he is never good enough in the clutch. If only he had hit moss in the end zone. It seems like every loss there is an open WR that he misses.


We could've pulled this one out

Agree about Samuels, but they need to give him more help than that, in my opinion. D. Ware is way too good for that.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Agree about Samuels, but they need to give him more help than that, in my opinion. D. Ware is way too good for that.

Yea same here, but at the same time perhaps our receivers might not have been so open if we left one more back. Basically maybe JC needed more options to find someone open.

[mheisig]

You all DO realize that we had 50% backups in our secondary and were playing against one of THE premier wide receivers in the modern era of football?

I hate TO with all my heart and would love nothing more than to see him get drilled into next Tuesday coming across the field, but you can't argue with the guys stats and career. He's climbing the list of all-time TD and his physical skills are tops NFL history.

We had one decent (usually) starting CB in Springs, a backup CB in Smoot, a rookie safety in Landry who's strength isn't coverage and a backup safety in Prioleau.

Yes, they got lit up by Romo and TO. It's pretty damn amazing that it wasn't worse, all things considered.

You take a hodge-podge, banged-up, cobbled-together secondary and ask them to blanket one of the top 5 WRs in the game and I think we got what is to be expected. No amount of scheming is going to make up for just not having the talent to shut TO down.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by mheisig

You all DO realize that we had 50% backups in our secondary and were playing against one of THE premier wide receivers in the modern era of football?

I hate TO with all my heart and would love nothing more than to see him get drilled into next Tuesday coming across the field, but you can't argue with the guys stats and career. He's climbing the list of all-time TD and his physical skills are tops NFL history.

We had one decent (usually) starting CB in Springs, a backup CB in Smoot, a rookie safety in Landry who's strength isn't coverage and a backup safety in Prioleau.

Yes, they got lit up by Romo and TO. It's pretty damn amazing that it wasn't worse, all things considered.

You take a hodge-podge, banged-up, cobbled-together secondary and ask them to blanket one of the top 5 WRs in the game and I think we got what is to be expected. No amount of scheming is going to make up for just not having the talent to shut TO down.

You honestly thought prior to the game, based on our talent, that TO would score 4 TDs(all long bombs)? And three of those being nearly the same exact play? Also when the emphasis from GW was to minimize his production?

I suspect the answer is no.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by hooskins

You honestly thought prior to the game, based on our talent, that TO would score 4 TDs(all long bombs)? And three of those being nearly the same exact play? Also when the emphasis from GW was to minimize his production?

I suspect the answer is no.

No, I never made a prediction that TO would score 4 TDs - and to nitpick, only 3 were long bombs, his first was a 7 yarder.

I didn't expect a lot of things, but does TO getting the numbers that he did surprise me? Of course not. It makes perfect sense if you look at our situation, regardless of what anyone expected/predicted/hoped/whatever going into the game.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Agree about Samuels, but they need to give him more help than that, in my opinion. D. Ware is way too good for that.

For me dude, I'd rather take a sack or two and have the offense opened up like it is. The offense looks amazing today. Two turnovers in the red zone? We could easily have had 35 points.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

For me dude, I'd rather take a sack or two and have the offense opened up like it is. The offense looks amazing today. Two turnovers in the red zone? We could easily have had 35 points.

Well I agree with that too. In addition, it seemed like most of the plays Ware had, he was guessing the Snap count pretty well and getting ahead of the play by just a hair (which is all you need in the NFL), so we might want to change up the snap count in the future.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Agree about Samuels, but they need to give him more help than that, in my opinion. D. Ware is way too good for that.

Samuels is good but not good enough to stop Ware the whole game without help. Not his fault, just reality. Of four bombs to TO, three involved mental errors and one was caused by a missed tackle. The secondary played a bad game-- worse than expected, even without Taylor. The pass interference play was also a brain-dead play and the 50 yard FG attempt on fourth and one was just as stupid, as was the FG after second failing to go for seven on fourth and one. It was also a mistake not to pass on third and three, which set up the bad decision to go for a field goal.

Conclusions:

We lost this one between the ears, the place where we have lost most of our games this year and made others close that should have been easy wins.

Even with Taylor, our defense needs help. We need a proven CB of quality and two defensive linemen, including a DE.

Gibbs and Co. should totally forget about Redskin Football and play Campbell Football. If Campbell had played more last year and Gibbs had turned him loose at the start of this one, we'd now be at least 8-2.

Drafting a WR is not a top priority. Using the ones we have is.