2 Qualms with the loss

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Also, with under 2:00 in the 4th quarter, down in the redzone, I felt that there was a bit of unnecessary urgency. I thought for sure they would have given the ball to Portis once or twice when they got near the 10 yard line.

Completley agree. Kind of reminded me of the Giants game a bit. We had a couple timeouts and I think we could have gone a little bit slower with it, maybe added a run or two, but it is what it is. Not upset with it or anything, but ya know? I'm trying not to be a downer, because I like how we played today.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

For me dude, I'd rather take a sack or two and have the offense opened up like it is. The offense looks amazing today. Two turnovers in the red zone? We could easily have had 35 points.

Well I agree with that too. In addition, it seemed like most of the plays Ware had, he was guessing the Snap count pretty well and getting ahead of the play by just a hair (which is all you need in the NFL), so we might want to change up the snap count in the future.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by hooskins

You honestly thought prior to the game, based on our talent, that TO would score 4 TDs(all long bombs)? And three of those being nearly the same exact play? Also when the emphasis from GW was to minimize his production?

I suspect the answer is no.

No, I never made a prediction that TO would score 4 TDs - and to nitpick, only 3 were long bombs, his first was a 7 yarder.

I didn't expect a lot of things, but does TO getting the numbers that he did surprise me? Of course not. It makes perfect sense if you look at our situation, regardless of what anyone expected/predicted/hoped/whatever going into the game.

[Campbell17]

Anyhing that went wrong coulda gone right and then anything that went right coulda gone wrong. The key to winning a football game is to get more things right than wrong. If the D had watched TO better, Crayton or Witten woulda done something.

[Stacks42]

The problem with TO's TDs is that the 3 long ones he was wide open. How many times can you blow the same coverage. TO said on the postgame show that they saw what the skins were doing at halftime and decided to attack it, and "they" (the skins) never adjusted the D, to prevent it form happening again.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by jamf

Let me add my 2:

Samuels played the worst of the 5 linemen. Overall, they did enough to win but samuels getting beat really cost us.


Campbell was good, Unfortunately he is never good enough in the clutch. If only he had hit moss in the end zone. It seems like every loss there is an open WR that he misses.


We could've pulled this one out

Several of the times Samuels was beat it was JC's fault. Snap count was too rythmic and the D was getting off the line before the snap. It's nearly impossible to block a speed rusher who is parrallel with you when you start back.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Also, with under 2:00 in the 4th quarter, down in the redzone, I felt that there was a bit of unnecessary urgency. I thought for sure they would have given the ball to Portis once or twice when they got near the 10 yard line.

Generally speaking I would agree 100% w/ you. I think the Giants game was lost because of rushing at the end when there was plenty of time. In this instance though I think the hurry up was more to take advantage of what JC was doing well and the D was having trouble stopping. I'm not sure how to get stats on it, but JC seems to be much better in the hurry up the rest of the game.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by hooskins

1) Not going for it on 4th and 1 and missing that 50 yarder. I guess hindsight is 20/20, but I felt we really should have thought about that with a "nothing to lose" attitude.

2)Giving up FOUR long bombs to TO, 3 of them were pretty much the exact same play. I realize ST wasn't there and all, but GW is a smart man and our players are decent enough to not get beat by the same player the same way 3 times. I really wouldn't mind Witten or Crayton getting a big TD over the middle, but you can't leave TO that open so many times. This really falls on GW. I am sure with ST back that will be less of an issue, but still it is unacceptable.

Point two really hurts me just because I know GW is better than that. On a whole I am just hurt because I know we could have won the game. My hat is off to JC for an awesome game and for Saunders/Gibbs for growing a pair and letting JC do more in the offense. We should run no-huddle more in beginning of the game.


Also please NO Debbie-downers. I do not mean for this to be a pessimistic thread. No "Gibbs/GW should be fired" "we suck" etc etc. And if you want to mention another point, just back it up. I will negative reputation the hell out of you guys if you ruin this thread by being pessimistic and posting crap . That is all.

Sometimes I think Gibbs has lost his nerve in his old age! That 50 plus FG that we missed on a 4th and one was a killer. You really need to look at the up side if you do make it vs the down side if you don't from that far! Making it is all well in good but if you don't that field postion to a Good Dallas O is just asking for it. Kicking a punt would have been better but missing was a kill at that place on the field. Really missing it was if we went for it but didn't make it! Sometimes to beat a team better then you[Dallas is just that] you need to make big plays and your big time coach needs to lead the way! MR Gibbs for the rest of the season think out side the box and go with what made you the Hall of Fame Coach you are. What do you have to lose? More games we have done that the pass two week very well!!!!

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

Sometimes I think Gibbs has lost his nerve in his old age! That 50 plus FG that we missed on a 4th and one was a killer. You really need to look at the up side if you do make it vs the down side if you don't from that far! Making it is all well in good but if you don't that field postion to a Good Dallas O is just asking for it. Kicking a punt would have been better but missing was a kill at that place on the field. Really missing it was if we went for it but didn't make it! Sometimes to beat a team better then you[Dallas is just that] you need to make big plays and your big time coach needs to lead the way! MR Gibbs for the rest of the season think out side the box and go with what made you the Hall of Fame Coach you are. What do you have to lose? More games we have done that the pass two week very well!!!!

I was yelling at the TV at that one. I really think they should have gone for it on those 4th and 1's, they should have gone and tried to win the game rather than just hang in there. Now, having said that, if Suisham doesn't push that first one just barely left then the Skins would only have needed a field goal to win at the end, so there you go. Still think they should have gone for it, but I'll reserve that judgement until after this week. Tampa has just become a do or die game.

[killromo]

Everybody played well except for the secondary. As far as the field goal on 4th and 1 goes, it had the distance and was just barely wide left. Gibbs was testing Suisham to see what he had in case the game came down to a long field goal situation, and he proved he has the leg and was only about 1 yard wide. In hindsight I would have loved to see them go for it, but at the time wasn't a bad call.
No player should ever get 4 td's on us. Shawn Springs looked ridiculous out there, and we should have just played without a safety at all on that side and it would have been the same outcome. But overall the rest of the team played VERY WELL, JC was pretty damn good, Santana is back, marion Barber didnt even have 40 yards and he is one of the toughest runners to bring down. They just exploited our weakness as much as they could and they won because of it. We are stronger for it though. Let's get ready for a tough tampa bay team next week and put oursleves in position so that next time Dallas is around on Dec. 30th the game means something, like playoffs!!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by jamf

Campbell was good, Unfortunately he is never good enough in the clutch. If only he had hit moss in the end zone. It seems like every loss there is an open WR that he misses.

He also hits receivers that drop balls. The pass to Cooley late in the game was a bit low, but it hit both of Cooley's hands and he didn't hang on. And the pass to Moss was just slightly off. If the same exact pass was thrown to TO, Randy Moss, Plaxico, Andre Johnson, etc., then it's a touchdown, but Washington doesn't believe in receivers that are over six feet tall.

[Stacks42]

I really dont understand G. Williams def strategy. He doesnt blitz and allows the better QB's in the league time to pick us apart. The skins were exposed in the Patriots game, as to how to beat this D, and he hasnt adjusted. Its obvious that our front four cannot create pressure on its own (as was pointed out by many on this site, a dline upgrade was needed in the offseason). If we rush Romo or put him on his back, he doesnt have time to throw bombs! And for the response I know Im going to get.... "ST was out so we couldnt blitz" well, would a blitzer have let TO any more wide open?

[MTK]

Romo was under quite a bit of pressure at times yesterday and simply got the ball off in time. I think we may have seen more blitzing if Taylor was playing. Having him out really hurt the entire defensive game plan.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Agree about Samuels, but they need to give him more help than that, in my opinion. D. Ware is way too good for that.

Samuels is good but not good enough to stop Ware the whole game without help. Not his fault, just reality. Of four bombs to TO, three involved mental errors and one was caused by a missed tackle. The secondary played a bad game-- worse than expected, even without Taylor. The pass interference play was also a brain-dead play and the 50 yard FG attempt on fourth and one was just as stupid, as was the FG after second failing to go for seven on fourth and one. It was also a mistake not to pass on third and three, which set up the bad decision to go for a field goal.

Conclusions:

We lost this one between the ears, the place where we have lost most of our games this year and made others close that should have been easy wins.

Even with Taylor, our defense needs help. We need a proven CB of quality and two defensive linemen, including a DE.

Gibbs and Co. should totally forget about Redskin Football and play Campbell Football. If Campbell had played more last year and Gibbs had turned him loose at the start of this one, we'd now be at least 8-2.

Drafting a WR is not a top priority. Using the ones we have is.

[BrunellMVP?]

"I, personally, don't feel that Gregg Williams should be the next head coach of this team. I'm not sure that he should be the D Coordinator next year. I think he's overrated. He came up with terrible gameplans today, against the Pats and against the Eagles. I don't like the way he deploys his defense and I think they've been garbage the last few weeks because of him."

agreed, i think williams is just absurdly arrogant. this could all be my perception (from the media) but adjustments needed to be made...i guess i feel like he's so in love with his own genius that he's blindly self confident. i really have no basis for this comment, but its def. the perception he gives...

ON a side note, while we did miss a FG, so did Dallas...