4th and short

jdlea · 11-25-2007, 03:19 PM

I don't know how it will effect the outcome of the game, and I do know that I have said this team needs to be more aggressive, but damnit, you take the points there. Don't take 3 off the board when you could have made a one possession game. That was just a terrible decision by Joe Gibbs! I cannot believe that call. Also, if you were going to go, you don't hand to a back w/o Sellers, you have to run the sneak.

BigSKINBauer · 11-25-2007, 03:22 PM

whatever, it caused them to be backed up and led to a three and out. We took a chance. It didn't pay off. I'll live. We should have been able to get a foot. A TD would have been huge.

jdlea · 11-25-2007, 03:23 PM

Yeah, a field goal would have been too, then it would be a TD game. Have faith in your defense!

MTK · 11-25-2007, 03:24 PM

Gibbs is putting it all on the line today.

I didn't hate the decision. We've been blasting him all year for not being aggressive.

jdlea · 11-25-2007, 03:26 PM

I would prefer some selective aggression, that turnover on downs keeps this thing at a 2 possession game, a FG makes it 1 possession. I was screaming as soon as the call was made.

BigSKINBauer · 11-25-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Gibbs is putting it all on the line today.

I didn't hate the decision. We've been blasting him all year for not being aggressive.

exactly and i think the media has gotten to him. I think he feels he has to take shots like that or else he would be criticized after the game for being too soft.

jdlea · 11-25-2007, 03:27 PM

However, I do have to say that if he was really serious about the whole "being more physical than the Bucs" thing, then it shows a tremendous amount of faith in his team. I like the leadership, unfortunately, I still hated the call

MTK · 11-25-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

exactly and i think the media has gotten to him. I think he feels he has to take shots like that or else he would be criticized after the game.

Nah, I just think he sees the season on the line, if there was a time to go balls out today is the day

BigSKINBauer · 11-25-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nah, I just think he sees the season on the line, if there was a time to go balls out today is the day

Agreed but i still think that the media haggling im after every game is going to effect what he does. He gets questioned more than most coaches. I just can't see that not effecting him in the games. When he gets into the press conferences, you can see that he takes a defensive position and knows that questions about his play calls will come up. I can definitely see gibbs thinking about what people will think during the games because it is surrounding him all week long.

hurrykaine · 11-25-2007, 03:38 PM

Nice decision to go for it on 4th. Play call sucked though - JC should've QB sneaked it.

Daseal · 11-25-2007, 03:43 PM

Im totally with hurrykaine. Gotta go with a QB sneak there, not an uber predictable run to the *gasp* left. I like the aggressive nature of the call.

MTK · 11-25-2007, 03:48 PM

I think they were looking for the sneak in that situation, either way it doesn't change the fact we now have 5 turnovers. It's awfully tough to win when you turnover the ball that much.

Daseal · 11-25-2007, 03:55 PM

Well Matty, when you need a feet, they can look for the sneak. A big QB like Campbell can fall forward for that, and if anything they will kinda give him the benefit of the doubt with it muddled

mheisig · 11-25-2007, 04:00 PM

I'm totally behind him on all the 4th down calls. Yeah someone's gonna bitch cause we didn't make one and hingsight's 20-20, but our season and playoff hopes are on the line and we're trailing by quite a bit, go for the throat and try for that TD. At least if we go down in flames we'll know we tried to win it.

jdlea · 11-25-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mheisig

I'm totally behind him on all the 4th down calls. Yeah someone's gonna bitch cause we didn't make one and hingsight's 20-20, but our season and playoff hopes are on the line and we're trailing by quite a bit, go for the throat and try for that TD. At least if we go down in flames we'll know we tried to win it.

Oh please, there was no hindsight about it, I knew it was a bad call regardless. I hated the call before the play, I hated the playcall and I hate the fact that I forced them to press when they should have been looking to get into field goal range at the end of the game. It totally changed the football game and all they needed to do was kick. The first time I've wanted them to be conservative all year and take the points to make a 1 possession game, they stupidly try to run and it contributed to the loss of the game.

11-25-2007, 03:19 PM	#1
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	4th and short I don't know how it will effect the outcome of the game, and I do know that I have said this team needs to be more aggressive, but damnit, you take the points there. Don't take 3 off the board when you could have made a one possession game. That was just a terrible decision by Joe Gibbs! I cannot believe that call. Also, if you were going to go, you don't hand to a back w/o Sellers, you have to run the sneak.

11-25-2007, 03:22 PM	#2
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: 4th and short whatever, it caused them to be backed up and led to a three and out. We took a chance. It didn't pay off. I'll live. We should have been able to get a foot. A TD would have been huge.

11-25-2007, 03:23 PM	#3
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: 4th and short Yeah, a field goal would have been too, then it would be a TD game. Have faith in your defense!

11-25-2007, 03:24 PM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	Re: 4th and short Gibbs is putting it all on the line today. I didn't hate the decision. We've been blasting him all year for not being aggressive. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-25-2007, 03:26 PM	#5
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: 4th and short I would prefer some selective aggression, that turnover on downs keeps this thing at a 2 possession game, a FG makes it 1 possession. I was screaming as soon as the call was made.

11-25-2007, 03:27 PM	#7
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: 4th and short However, I do have to say that if he was really serious about the whole "being more physical than the Bucs" thing, then it shows a tremendous amount of faith in his team. I like the leadership, unfortunately, I still hated the call

11-25-2007, 03:38 PM	#10
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 52 Posts: 762	Re: 4th and short Nice decision to go for it on 4th. Play call sucked though - JC should've QB sneaked it.

11-25-2007, 03:43 PM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: 4th and short Im totally with hurrykaine. Gotta go with a QB sneak there, not an uber predictable run to the gasp left. I like the aggressive nature of the call. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-25-2007, 03:48 PM	#12
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	Re: 4th and short I think they were looking for the sneak in that situation, either way it doesn't change the fact we now have 5 turnovers. It's awfully tough to win when you turnover the ball that much. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-25-2007, 03:55 PM	#13
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: 4th and short Well Matty, when you need a feet, they can look for the sneak. A big QB like Campbell can fall forward for that, and if anything they will kinda give him the benefit of the doubt with it muddled __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-25-2007, 04:00 PM	#14
mheisig The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Southeast Age: 41 Posts: 2,119	Re: 4th and short I'm totally behind him on all the 4th down calls. Yeah someone's gonna bitch cause we didn't make one and hingsight's 20-20, but our season and playoff hopes are on the line and we're trailing by quite a bit, go for the throat and try for that TD. At least if we go down in flames we'll know we tried to win it. __________________ Your post count, reputation score, popularity ranking, VIP tag or funny signature has no bearing on how I value you as an individual.

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