Jon Jansen: Starter Next Year?

[Schneed10]

I cannot, absolutely cannot, fathom how we're even having a discussion surrounding Chris Samuels. He's nothing short of a stud. He's not "sub par" in pass protection. He's fantastic at it.

Letting in the occasional sack against the top DEs, when you NEVER get help from a TE, does not constitute being sub par in pass protection.

What's more, we're financially committed to him. Cutting him, trading him, or doing ANYTHING but keeping him would be prohibitive from a salary cap standpoint.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I cannot, absolutely cannot, fathom how we're even having a discussion surrounding Chris Samuels. He's nothing short of a stud. He's not "sub par" in pass protection. He's fantastic at it.

Letting in the occasional sack against the top DEs, when you NEVER get help from a TE, does not constitute being sub par in pass protection.

What's more, we're financially committed to him. Cutting him, trading him, or doing ANYTHING but keeping him would be prohibitive from a salary cap standpoint.

This discussion is getting more retarded with each post.

[Bill B]

As Schneed has pointed out we cannot cut Samuels and I think he is just fine at Left Tackle. I am of the opinion that Jansen should be kept and when healthy he is fine. As many have pointed out the salary cap has constrained the Skins and I think this offseason we are going to have to redo several contracts to convert salaries and bonuses to get under the cap and have additonal room to sign some players - so the argument of "getting rid of either Samuels or Jansen" is really not even worth considering - the Skins have already shelled out the money with both of these players and they need to stick with them. Even if you got a reaonable trade offer for Samuels the cap hit from trading him would be devastating so the Skins probably wouldn't even bother thinking twice if the got an inquiry from another team.

As far as the draft - we need a defensive end in the worst way to replace Philip Daniels and the Skins would be fools to pass up on a DE in the first round. I have mentioned along with others that there is a nice stock of DE's in the first round and the Skins would be wise to choose one of them. In my opinion age hits defensive lineman a lot harder than offensive lineman - especially at the DE position. How many sacks does Daniels even have? Let alone how many qb hurries does he have? I would venture to say he does not have many and one of the reasons is his speed continues to go down as he is getting old. Take a look at the next three games and see how much time the opposing qb gets and you should come to the same conclusion I did - we are giving the oppising qb's too much time and the only way I see the Skins fixing this is by drafting a DE.

As far as the second pick down - I would have no problem if the Skins went and drafted a guard because Pete Kendall is older and his contract expires after next year, so to me this would be a logical choice because with Kendalls contract expiring the salary cap constraints would not be there versus getting a tackle and cutting either Jansen or Samuels, who have several more years left on their respective contracts.

As far as other picks I would like a bigger WR and I think a safety or CB should be looked at as well.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I cannot, absolutely cannot, fathom how we're even having a discussion surrounding Chris Samuels. He's nothing short of a stud. He's not "sub par" in pass protection. He's fantastic at it.

Letting in the occasional sack against the top DEs, when you NEVER get help from a TE, does not constitute being sub par in pass protection.

What's more, we're financially committed to him. Cutting him, trading him, or doing ANYTHING but keeping him would be prohibitive from a salary cap standpoint.

No one remembers what it was like when our line was bad. That's how good Samuels is. He has made us forget what a sub-par LT really is. We'll remember when he is gone.