Do you trust Snyder?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

But couldn't Snyder just play along for once? What's all the suspense about? He could nip this right in the bud quickly, I would think.

You know it's funny. Snyder stated that one of the things he has learned from Gibbs is patience. Some of us applauded that, but now here we are begging for him to make a quick decision. LOL

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You know it's funny. Snyder stated that one of the things he has learned from Gibbs is patience. Some of us applauded that, but now here we are begging for him to make a quick decision. LOL

Hey hey HEY!!! Stop with the demand for logic and consistency. Jeez, next you'll want everyone to be rational.

I prefer obtuseness, it promotes discussion and gives me something to do in the offseason.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You know it's funny. Snyder stated that one of the things he has learned from Gibbs is patience. Some of us applauded that, but now here we are begging for him to make a quick decision. LOL

Ha! That is funny. It is true, the guy just can't win with the fans, regardless of what he does. However, the reason he can't win is because he hasn't won, and the longer he goes without fielding a championship-caliber team, the more his judgments will be questioned.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Coff

Ha! That is funny. It is true, the guy just can't win with the fans, regardless of what he does. However, the reason he can't win is because he hasn't won, and the longer he goes without fielding a championship-caliber team, the more his judgments will be questioned.

Well he hired Gibbs to field that championship team and Gibbs failed to get us their but he was looked at as a success. So what are the standards to judge a coach? I'm sure if GW takes over the team and leads us to a few playoff games and an over all loosing record he will not be looked at as a success.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You know it's funny. Snyder stated that one of the things he has learned from Gibbs is patience. Some of us applauded that, but now here we are begging for him to make a quick decision. LOL

I know what you're saying, but could look at it a couple of ways though. Snyder has already interviewed 1 candidate & that's confirmed, and according to another post here he may be on the way to talk to Grimm.

For all we know, it's his impatience that's driving these meetings, rather than being patient & talking to the in-house candidates.

Don't get me wrong, to be thorough he's got to talk to all of these guys before they're scooped up by other teams, but at the same time his eagerness to set up interviews w/them could be due to looking for the theoretical quick fix hire, rather than patiently working through the details of keeping this staff intact. I don't know one way or another, but I think there are signs of DS reverting to past form.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I know what you're saying, but could look at it a couple of ways though. Snyder has already interviewed 1 candidate & that's confirmed, and according to another post here he may be on the way to talk to Grimm.

For all we know, it's his impatience that's driving these meetings, rather than being patient & talking to the in-house candidates.

Don't get me wrong, to be thorough he's got to talk to all of these guys before they're scooped up by other teams, but at the same time his eagerness to set up interviews w/them could be due to looking for the theoretical quick fix hire, rather than patiently working through the details of keeping this staff intact. I don't know one way or another, but I think there are signs of DS reverting to past form.

I think you may be reaching a bit here.

If he already knows what he has in-house, and by now I'm sure there have been some in-house discussions with Williams, I don't think the fact he's out there interviewing other coaches should be misconstrued has him not being patient.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think you may be reaching a bit here.

If he already knows what he has in-house, and by now I'm sure there have been some in-house discussions with Williams, I don't think the fact he's out there interviewing other coaches should be misconstrued has him not being patient.

I am reaching a tad bit, but I don't think you can ignore the timing & speed of the last 2 days. Hopefully there have been in house discussions & they've managed to keep them on the serious down low & not leak to anybody. My point is that simply on the surface w/out knowing any more than we do, Snyder's behavior thus far since Gibbs announcement doesn't give the fans much confidence that he indeed has changed.

I guess I agree w/JLC who said that his "vow of silence" hurts his image & leads to speculation about him wanting to hire from the outside. We're all speculating here anyway, but I'll also say that Shneed has good points about all signs so far indicating he'll not hire GW. Whether any of it can be chalked up to impatience or not, I don't know, but it does seem that Snyder is showing early signs of his old ways.

Maybe he's just trying to increase traffic on redskins.com?

[QBall]

Why wouldn't we trust Snyder? He did bring Joe back in the first place. Don't think anyone saw that coming. It wouldn't be smart for Dan to just give the keys to this Franchise away to GW without a proper process. He's too smart for that.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I am reaching a tad bit, but I don't think you can ignore the timing & speed of the last 2 days. Hopefully there have been in house discussions & they've managed to keep them on the serious down low & not leak to anybody. My point is that simply on the surface w/out knowing any more than we do, Snyder's behavior thus far since Gibbs announcement doesn't give the fans much confidence that he indeed has changed.

I guess I agree w/JLC who said that his "vow of silence" hurts his image & leads to speculation about him wanting to hire from the outside. We're all speculating here anyway, but I'll also say that Shneed has good points about all signs so far indicating he'll not hire GW. Whether any of it can be chalked up to impatience or not, I don't know, but it does seem that Snyder is showing early signs of his old ways.

Maybe he's just trying to increase traffic on redskins.com?

He interviewed one coach and now he is back to his old ways. No one has a clue what going on so why not wait until after the decision is made and hear why they were made before we jump to conclusions about what he is doing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I am reaching a tad bit, but I don't think you can ignore the timing & speed of the last 2 days. Hopefully there have been in house discussions & they've managed to keep them on the serious down low & not leak to anybody. My point is that simply on the surface w/out knowing any more than we do, Snyder's behavior thus far since Gibbs announcement doesn't give the fans much confidence that he indeed has changed.

I guess I agree w/JLC who said that his "vow of silence" hurts his image & leads to speculation about him wanting to hire from the outside. We're all speculating here anyway, but I'll also say that Shneed has good points about all signs so far indicating he'll not hire GW. Whether any of it can be chalked up to impatience or not, I don't know, but it does seem that Snyder is showing early signs of his old ways.

Maybe he's just trying to increase traffic on redskins.com?

Well, he does have a head coach opening and would like to fill it as soon as reasonably possible. I guess I don't see issues with the speed and timing of the last 2 days. What would be a more preferable pace to you? If he took a day off in-between interviews?

The truth is right now we really don't know much other than:

-Schwartz was interviewed.

-Apparently Russ Grimm may be next.

-Williams is definitely part of the conversation and will probably interview at some point.

-Gibbs is involved in the process, to what extent nobody is sure.

-Cowher is still adamant that he's not coming back this year.

-Joe Theismann is not a part of the process to find the next coach.

Everything else is pure speculation and some people are really getting ahead of themselves here. I honestly haven't seen or heard anything yet to indicate that Snyder is "back to his old ways". Has he signed any aging big name free agents to mega deals? Did he start charging for training camp again?

If anything it sounds like to me he is being patient and letting the process play out.

[stone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well, he does have a head coach opening and would like to fill it as soon as reasonably possible. I guess I don't see issues with the speed and timing of the last 2 days. What would be a more preferable pace to you? If he took a day off in-between interviews?

The truth is right now we really don't know much other than:

-Schwartz was interviewed.

-Apparently Russ Grimm may be next.

-Williams is definitely part of the conversation and will probably interview at some point.

-Gibbs is involved in the process, to what extent nobody is sure.

-Cowher is still adamant that he's not coming back this year.

-Joe Theismann is not a part of the process to find the next coach.

Everything else is pure speculation and some people are really getting ahead of themselves here. I honestly haven't seen or heard anything yet to indicate that Snyder is "back to his old ways". Has he signed any aging big name free agents to mega deals? Did he start charging for training camp again?

If anything it sounds like to me he is being patient and letting the process play out.

Or perhaps, Williams got the job already and is moving forward as we speak and the Danny is off doing the things he has too... hence the silence... just a theory.

[sportscurmudgeon]

If "do the right thing" = "maximize team revenues and profits", then absolutely Danny Boy will do the right thing.


If "do the right thing" = "make the single best football decision for the team", then Danny Boy is not likely to do the right thing. HOWEVER, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while...


If "do the right thing" = "hiring a coach with sufficient 'celeb value' such that Danny Boy gets more than 2 minutes of face time on TV", you can count on him doing the right thing.


Let me pose an ancillary question here:

What makes Redskins' fans think that Danny Boy gives a fig about what they think or what they wish for the team? During the winding path of his goofy moves over the past eight or nine years, how often have the fans rebuked him in any meaningful way?

Redskins' fans have taught Danny Boy that he can ignore them and he can even do precisely what they don't want him to do - - and they'll be back spending their money on his product without abatement.

There are only two things valuable to Danny Boy. One is his wealth and the business empire he controls. Two is his ego. Unless Redskin fans rebuke one of those two things when Danny Boy does something they don't like, he will continue to patronize them some of the time and ignore them most of the time.