SNYDER reconsider PETITION!!!

[Hog1]

Dear Season ticket holder,
there are currently 100,000 on the season ticket waiting list. I will sincerely miss the 3 of you pissed off enough to leave.............The Dan

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Dear Season ticket holder,
there are currently 100,000 on the season ticket waiting list. I will sincerely miss the 3 of you pissed off enough to leave.............The Dan

LOL

nice

[sportscurmudgeon]

Matty:

As usual, you are the succinct voice of reason and reality here. :thumb:

Anyone who believes that Danny Boy will make his deicision on the new coach based on the contents of this - or any other - petition probably leaves the lights on at night for Jimmy Hoffa.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Matty:

As usual, you are the succinct voice of reason and reality here. :thumb:

Anyone who believes that Danny Boy will make his deicision on the new coach based on the contents of this - or any other - petition probably leaves the lights on at night for Jimmy Hoffa.

And Snyder shouldn't bow to fan pressure. Remember the last Washington owner that got bullied by the fans and ended up changing course because of it? He ended up giving Juwan Howard $105M ...

That being said, the situation has gotten out of hand it seems and Snyder must accept at least some of the blame for that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

And Snyder shouldn't bow to fan pressure. Remember the last Washington owner that got bullied by the fans and ended up changing course because of it? He ended up giving Juwan Howard $105M ...

That being said, the situation has gotten out of hand it seems and Snyder must accept at least some of the blame for that.

The situation is "out of hand" in the eyes of the media and fans, both of which know very little of what is actually going on behind the scenes. We haven't heard a peep from any Redskins official during this process, so until then we only have ourselves to blame for this self induced panic.

What did Snyder say when Gibbs stepped down? Something about being patient and going through the process? Sounds like he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What did Snyder say when Gibbs stepped down? Something about being patient and going through the process? Sounds like he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

If he truly wants to be patient, then why not wait until after the Superbowl when all coaches are fair game?

And I'm not exactly happy with the potential hiring of Fassel, but at this point, I don't care. He's already basically decided it's not going to be Williams, so we'll be dealing with at least another year of rebuilding.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

If he truly wants to be patient, then why not wait until after the Superbowl when all coaches are fair game?

And I'm not exactly happy with the potential hiring of Fassel, but at this point, I don't care. He's already basically decided it's not going to be Williams, so we'll be dealing with at least another year of rebuilding.

Well, maybe that's what he's doing. After all there are rumors he would like to interview Spagnola and McDaniels.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The situation is "out of hand" in the eyes of the media and fans, both of which know very little of what is actually going on behind the scenes. We haven't heard a peep from any Redskins official during this process, so until then we only have ourselves to blame for this self induced panic.

What did Snyder say when Gibbs stepped down? Something about being patient and going through the process? Sounds like he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

Matty,

While I often agree with you, here I must humbly disagree. If Snyder/Cerrato already know what they want to do with the HC vacancy then why don't they hold a presser and announce Gibbs' successor? You can say that they are "being patient" and perhaps waiting until after the SB, but in that case why are they bringing in Zorn and Ryan as OC and DC candidates (as multiple sources have reported)? If they are bringing in OC and DC candidates then the only conclusion is that they have a successor in place already, otherwise why are you trying to build a staff already? If Fassel is the guy, then why not just announce it? Why is it contingent on getting Zorn and Ryan? I can't imagine that Fassel is in position to say, I'll only come if I can get X and Y on my staff. If you trust Fassel to run the ship then why do you need a whole staff in place before you hire him? Not to mention the fact that the Redskins still have an OC and DC under contract (obviously a new coach would probably overhaul, but why make that attempt publicly before you have even announced a new coach?) If they want to wait for Spagnolo (which would have made sense had the Giants lost but now seems to just drag the thing out too long), then wait for him but don't bring in coaching candidates for the OC and DC jobs.

No other team in the league that had a vacancy waited to fill the OC and DC spots before they announced the coach. They announced their head coach, then (logically) allowed him to move forward choosing his staff. I agree that the histrionics on this site and elsewhere during the search were unnecessary. However, the past two days Snyder has bungled the operation and I think criticism of specifically his handling of the Fassel/Ryan/Zorn situation is very justified.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Matty,

While I often agree with you, here I must humbly disagree. If Snyder/Cerrato already know what they want to do with the HC vacancy then why don't they hold a presser and announce Gibbs' successor? You can say that they are "being patient" and perhaps waiting until after the SB, but in that case why are they bringing in Zorn and Ryan as OC and DC candidates (as multiple sources have reported)? If they are bringing in OC and DC candidates then the only conclusion is that they have a successor in place already, otherwise why are you trying to build a staff already? If Fassel is the guy, then why not just announce it? Why is it contingent on getting Zorn and Ryan? I can't imagine that Fassel is in position to say, I'll only come if I can get X and Y on my staff. If you trust Fassel to run the ship then why do you need a whole staff in place before you hire him? Not to mention the fact that the Redskins still have an OC and DC under contract (obviously a new coach would probably overhaul, but why make that attempt publicly before you have even announced a new coach?) If they want to wait for Spagnolo (which would have made sense had the Giants lost but now seems to just drag the thing out too long), then wait for him but don't bring in coaching candidates for the OC and DC jobs.

No other team in the league that had a vacancy waited to fill the OC and DC spots before they announced the coach. They announced their head coach, then (logically) allowed him to move forward choosing his staff. I agree that the histrionics on this site and elsewhere during the search were unnecessary. However, the past two days Snyder has bungled the operation and I think criticism of specifically his handling of the Fassel/Ryan/Zorn situation is very justified.

Maybe because they are still going through the process and interviewing candidates??

Without knowing the entire situation, it's comical to sit here and blast Snyder and co.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Maybe because they are still going through the process and interviewing candidates??

Without knowing the entire situation, it's comical to sit here and blast Snyder and co.

You are TOTALLY correct!

Is it not amazing how easy it is for those with no skin on the table, to prematurely judge the decisions of those that do.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Matty,

While I often agree with you, here I must humbly disagree. If Snyder/Cerrato already know what they want to do with the HC vacancy then why don't they hold a presser and announce Gibbs' successor? You can say that they are "being patient" and perhaps waiting until after the SB, but in that case why are they bringing in Zorn and Ryan as OC and DC candidates (as multiple sources have reported)? If they are bringing in OC and DC candidates then the only conclusion is that they have a successor in place already, otherwise why are you trying to build a staff already? If Fassel is the guy, then why not just announce it? Why is it contingent on getting Zorn and Ryan? I can't imagine that Fassel is in position to say, I'll only come if I can get X and Y on my staff. If you trust Fassel to run the ship then why do you need a whole staff in place before you hire him? Not to mention the fact that the Redskins still have an OC and DC under contract (obviously a new coach would probably overhaul, but why make that attempt publicly before you have even announced a new coach?) If they want to wait for Spagnolo (which would have made sense had the Giants lost but now seems to just drag the thing out too long), then wait for him but don't bring in coaching candidates for the OC and DC jobs.

No other team in the league that had a vacancy waited to fill the OC and DC spots before they announced the coach. They announced their head coach, then (logically) allowed him to move forward choosing his staff. I agree that the histrionics on this site and elsewhere during the search were unnecessary. However, the past two days Snyder has bungled the operation and I think criticism of specifically his handling of the Fassel/Ryan/Zorn situation is very justified.

Why interview a OC and a DC w/out a HC? Who does that? You hire the HC FIRST! Snyder and Vinny suck beyond belief.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Why interview a OC and a DC w/out a HC? Who does that? You hire the HC FIRST! Snyder and Vinny suck beyond belief.

Or you hire them together. Isn't that essentially what happened with Gibbs and Williams?

[Warren85Ellard]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

And Snyder shouldn't bow to fan pressure. Remember the last Washington owner that got bullied by the fans and ended up changing course because of it? He ended up giving Juwan Howard $105M ...

That being said, the situation has gotten out of hand it seems and Snyder must accept at least some of the blame for that.

That's a good point. Remember Abe thought that throwing a parade for Juwan would entice him to stay in D.C.? Did anybody go to that? Fans, including myself, were pissed. In retrospect, Polin (by accident), made the right move, by not signing Juwan. Because of Howard's return, Rasheed Wallace for Rod Strickland soon followed.....That did ruin us. If you want to use the Wizards for comparison, look at how the Wizards have done since they got a real GM in Ernie Grunfeld!

[Larry Michael is Satan]

Please don't shit the bed, Danny. This team does not need to be rebuilt. If you choose to rebuild, lose great coaches like Williams, Grey, Blache, Bugel, you are disrespecting the work Joe Gibbs did here, and saying you know better. Come on, man, sometimes the right decision is the obvious one.

[dgack]

That last post made me laugh out loud for the first time in a long time. The alias and first line of the post were comedy gold.