Why the hate towards Fassel?

Redskins_P · 01-28-2008, 02:08 PM

Seriously, I'm not sure if theres a big difference between the two. Both have winning records, both have playoff experience, and both are "players" coaches. They both run the West Coast Offense. The only huge difference is that Fassel made it to the Super Bowl. Other than that, they're both very similar, IMO.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 01-28-2008, 02:12 PM

I think for me...I don't like him, because he represents, what I feel, the opposite of what Williams would have brought to the table.....plus I still see him as a Giant...it would be like Parcells coming here

Lady Brave · 01-28-2008, 02:18 PM

I don't understand all the hate either. How can you not love this guy?

Just look at that punim...

SFREDSKIN · 01-28-2008, 02:22 PM

I'm pro Mooch having been through his years here in SF. He's an excellent coach who came in when the 49ers were getting old, ownership problems (Eddie D. got caught on gambling scandal) salary cap caught up to the team, Young's concussions forced him to retire, TO and Jerry Rice whining, pretty much the shit hit the fan all at once and he was made the scapegoat cause he was loyal to Eddie D. and not his sister and husband (the new owners) The players love him, he's smart and a winner. Out of all the candidates out there he would be my #1 choice. His team came from behind to beat Fassel's team in the playoffs.

MTK · 01-28-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Seriously, I'm not sure if theres a big difference between the two. Both have winning records, both have playoff experience, and both are "players" coaches. They both run the West Coast Offense. The only huge difference is that Fassel made it to the Super Bowl. Other than that, they're both very similar, IMO.

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

SFREDSKIN · 01-28-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

Mooch's record in Detroit shouldn't count, remember it is Detroit.

Redskins_P · 01-28-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

Mooch has better hair. Its almost Jimmy Johnson-esque.

J. Spanky · 01-28-2008, 02:49 PM

i think probably the biggest factor contributing to the bias against fassel is what happened last year in baltimore.

the ravens offense was dismal with him making calls. billick fired him, and immediately, the offense improved. the turn around was so noticeable and so instantaneous, one could not help but attribute the improvement directly to fassel (the LACK of fassel, that is).

true fassel is not being considered to be a coordinator here. but after having so recently demonstrated a glaring ineptitude in an assistant role, i think people's hesitance in embracing him as gibb's successor is, at least somewhat, justified.

ArtMonkDrillz · 01-28-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Spanky

i think probably the biggest factor contributing to the bias against fassel is what happened last year in baltimore.

the ravens offense was dismal with him making calls. billick fired him, and immediately, the offense improved. the turn around was so noticeable and so instantaneous, one could not help but attribute the improvement directly to fassel.

true fassel is not being considered to be a coordinator here. but after having so recently demonstrated a glaring ineptitude in an assistant role, i think people's hesitance in embracing him as gibb's successor is, at least somewhat, justified.

This is my main gripe with fassel. I'm already embarassed by the way Snyder has handled this whole thing and Fassel would just be icing on the cake, especially because of where I live.

In a much more unimportant/Blink-like way, Fassel just doesn't strike me as a great leader. I know this is kind of dumb because it's not based on anything but a visual perception but Fassel carries himself like a big loser IMO. There's just something about him that annoys me but i can't really put my finger on that. He reminds me of an over zealous middle school math teacher who likes to give his students packets of homework on Friday's and who constantly has pit stains.
I think the fact that other people are posting this guy's goofy mug proves that I'm not the only one who felt this gut reaction the moment I heard his name last week.
Maybe it's not even really him though; maybe it's more of the fact that he's NOT Gregg Williams, who I wanted to be named HC right away. It could be that I'm just bitter right now about how the season ended and this is my way of venting.

J. Spanky · 01-28-2008, 02:59 PM

oops, double post

EternalEnigma21 · 01-28-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

mora would also have a higher approval than fassel and mora's not on tv. The other two are likeable guys. Fassel is a fit pitching sourpus who's career is mediocre. At least the other two are likeable mediocre.....

SFREDSKIN · 01-28-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

mora would also have a higher approval than fassel and mora's not on tv. The other two are likeable guys. Fassel is a fit pitching sourpus who's career is mediocre. At least the other two are likeable mediocre.....

Mora was Mooch's DC in SF.

steveo395 · 01-28-2008, 03:19 PM

Jim Fassel never had two straight winning seasons on the Giants and his teams were very inconsistent. When Mariucci was on San Fran, his teams were much more consistent. They only did bad when Steve Young's career ended, and then they got good again with Garcia. Fassel and Mariucci are both offensive coaches, but Mariucci's offenses were always better, which is what the Redskins need.

Jim Fassel Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Steve Mariucci Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-28-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

Jim Fassel never had two straight winning seasons on the Giants and his teams were very inconsistent. When Mariucci was on San Fran, his teams were much more consistent. They only did bad when Steve Young's career ended, and then they got good again with Garcia. Fassel and Mariucci are both offensive coaches, but Mariucci's offenses were always better, which is what the Redskins need.

Jim Fassel Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Steve Mariucci Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Did Gibbs 2.0?

redsk1 · 01-28-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Did Gibbs 2.0?

That's a whole other thread.

01-28-2008, 02:12 PM	#2
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 40 Posts: 896	Re: Why the hate towards Fassel? I think for me...I don't like him, because he represents, what I feel, the opposite of what Williams would have brought to the table.....plus I still see him as a Giant...it would be like Parcells coming here

01-28-2008, 02:18 PM	#3
Lady Brave The Starter Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Trinity, NC Age: 53 Posts: 1,444	Re: Why the hate towards Fassel? I don't understand all the hate either. How can you not love this guy? Just look at that punim...

01-28-2008, 02:22 PM	#4
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Why the hate towards Fassel? I'm pro Mooch having been through his years here in SF. He's an excellent coach who came in when the 49ers were getting old, ownership problems (Eddie D. got caught on gambling scandal) salary cap caught up to the team, Young's concussions forced him to retire, TO and Jerry Rice whining, pretty much the shit hit the fan all at once and he was made the scapegoat cause he was loyal to Eddie D. and not his sister and husband (the new owners) The players love him, he's smart and a winner. Out of all the candidates out there he would be my #1 choice. His team came from behind to beat Fassel's team in the playoffs. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-28-2008, 02:49 PM	#8
J. Spanky Special Teams Join Date: May 2007 Location: off the grid Posts: 192	Re: Why the hate towards Fassel? i think probably the biggest factor contributing to the bias against fassel is what happened last year in baltimore. the ravens offense was dismal with him making calls. billick fired him, and immediately, the offense improved. the turn around was so noticeable and so instantaneous, one could not help but attribute the improvement directly to fassel (the LACK of fassel, that is). true fassel is not being considered to be a coordinator here. but after having so recently demonstrated a glaring ineptitude in an assistant role, i think people's hesitance in embracing him as gibb's successor is, at least somewhat, justified.

01-28-2008, 02:59 PM	#10
J. Spanky Special Teams Join Date: May 2007 Location: off the grid Posts: 192	Re: Why the hate towards Fassel? oops, double post

01-28-2008, 02:08 PM	#1
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	Re: Why the hate towards Fassel? Seriously, I'm not sure if theres a big difference between the two. Both have winning records, both have playoff experience, and both are "players" coaches. They both run the West Coast Offense. The only huge difference is that Fassel made it to the Super Bowl. Other than that, they're both very similar, IMO.

01-28-2008, 03:19 PM	#13
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: Why the hate towards Fassel? Jim Fassel never had two straight winning seasons on the Giants and his teams were very inconsistent. When Mariucci was on San Fran, his teams were much more consistent. They only did bad when Steve Young's career ended, and then they got good again with Garcia. Fassel and Mariucci are both offensive coaches, but Mariucci's offenses were always better, which is what the Redskins need. Jim Fassel Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com Steve Mariucci Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com __________________

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