Spagnuolo or Fassel?

Longtimefan · 02-06-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Campbell17

I don't see anything that would make fassel better than spags. Spags will make our defense fantastic.

You could also turn that statement around, and read it from right to left.

We already have a defensive coordinator in place. While I understand the intrigue with Spagnuolo, and the SB win being his highlight of the moment, take a minute to look at the team defensive stats from the past season.

The Giants, Redskins and Cowboys finished the season ranked 7th, 8th and 9th respectively, and the stats of all three teams are strikingly simular. There's not enough differential in numbers to suggest the Giants defense was that much better than the Redskins. If we were to hire Spagnuolo strictly on his defensive prowess [the exception being the SB] then it's understood why such a strong case was made for the coordinator we already had in place in the name of one Gregg Williams.

backrow · 02-06-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by angryssg

Neither, I want Mooch.

JLC thinks Mooch, Meeks, Fassel, and Spags are all still in the running.

Last weeks poll had Mooch in an overwhelming win.

QBall · 02-07-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

My question to all of you is why Spags?Your D was in the top 10 and you must admit the personel is different than the Giants so why bring him here why not a Offensive head coach who can help a team with a young QB?

Because he was on our radar before the big game anyway. Now that he has that fresh ring he commands respect and confidence will be there. He'll take us to the superbowl this year! Mark my words!!!!!!

WillH · 02-07-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan;418466[B

]You could also turn that statement around, and read it from right to left.[/B]

We already have a defensive coordinator in place. While I understand the intrigue with Spagnuolo, and the SB win being his highlight of the moment, take a minute to look at the team defensive stats from the past season.

The Giants, Redskins and Cowboys finished the season ranked 7th, 8th and 9th respectively, and the stats of all three teams are strikingly simular. There's not enough differential in numbers to suggest the Giants defense was that much better than the Redskins. If we were to hire Spagnuolo strictly on his defensive prowess [the exception being the SB] then it's understood why such a strong case was made for the coordinator we already had in place in the name of one Gregg Williams.

If you turned it around AND read it from right to left, it would be the same message.

Monkeydad · 02-07-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

You could also turn that statement around, and read it from right to left.

Are you Chinese?

QBall · 02-07-2008, 11:23 AM

OH SHIT!!!!!

Posted at 11:13 AM ET, 02/ 7/2008
AM Update
Still waiting on final confirmation on some things, but I heard that Steve Spagnuolo left town late last night - around 1 am - without a contract. One source said he was not offered the job and is talking to the Giants about a new deal there after guiding that defense to a stunning defeat of New England.

Again, I do not have this confirmed yet, but sources who have been spot-on through this entire process are telling me this.

Indications are pointing to Jim Fassel at this point but Dan Snyder has not begun telling the candidates of any decision yet. They all - Ron Meeks, Fassel, Mooch (if you want to throw him in there) - know nothing as of this moment, but that could be changing. And just because Spagnuolo left without a deal - if what I am hearing is true - it would not preclude Snyder from still striking one with him.

But if you held me down right now and made he guess - again, I'm guessing here and not reporting - I'd say Fassel right now.

SmootSmack · 02-07-2008, 11:29 AM

Why did that warrant an "OH SHIT" response?

Soup's Uncle · 02-07-2008, 11:38 AM

If its Fassel, I'm gonna be pissed. I'm still praying Mooch gets it, but it ain't gonna happen.

QBall · 02-07-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why did that warrant an "OH SHIT" response?

B/C I want Spags and I wanted him to leave with a contract.

celts32 · 02-07-2008, 11:53 AM

It seems like there are maybe 3 people on this board that actually want Fassel to get this job. I am not one of the 3.

SFREDSKIN · 02-07-2008, 11:55 AM

I'm sick of JLC and his "spot on sources", the guy changes candidates like the weather. First he got us excited about Williams, then Mooch, then Spags and now he goes back to Fassel who all along has been the HC candidate. I'm sick of all the DS BS just name a HC and get it over with!! Most of us will be pissed and the backlash will begin. People will start arguing to give him a chance (which is fair) others will call for his head. I personally will judge him on the first 5 games.

SFREDSKIN · 02-07-2008, 12:00 PM

SPAGS IS OUT!!

Spagnuolo turns down 'Skins, sticking with Giants

QBall · 02-07-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

SPAGS IS OUT!!

Spagnuolo turns down 'Skins, sticking with Giants

FUCK HIM!!! HE WOULD HAVE SUCKED ANYWAY NEED OFFENSIVE MIND!!!

skinsguy · 02-07-2008, 12:06 PM

Looks like we will be more than likely welcoming Jim Fassel into the fold. I think he'll work well with Jim Zorn. I'm eager to get things going!

redsk1 · 02-07-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by QBall

FUCK HIM!!! HE WOULD HAVE SUCKED ANYWAY NEED OFFENSIVE MIND!!!

Dude????

Calm down a little. Spags is not Lombardy. Nothing said he was even offered the job, right?

View Poll Results: Spagnoulo or Fassel: who's your pick?
Spagnoulo	127	80.89%
Fassel	30	19.11%
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02-07-2008, 11:23 AM	#81
QBall Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 351	Re: Spagnuolo or Fassel? OH SHIT!!!!! Posted at 11:13 AM ET, 02/ 7/2008 AM Update Still waiting on final confirmation on some things, but I heard that Steve Spagnuolo left town late last night - around 1 am - without a contract. One source said he was not offered the job and is talking to the Giants about a new deal there after guiding that defense to a stunning defeat of New England. Again, I do not have this confirmed yet, but sources who have been spot-on through this entire process are telling me this. Indications are pointing to Jim Fassel at this point but Dan Snyder has not begun telling the candidates of any decision yet. They all - Ron Meeks, Fassel, Mooch (if you want to throw him in there) - know nothing as of this moment, but that could be changing. And just because Spagnuolo left without a deal - if what I am hearing is true - it would not preclude Snyder from still striking one with him. But if you held me down right now and made he guess - again, I'm guessing here and not reporting - I'd say Fassel right now. __________________ IT WAS THE TIME OF THE PREACHER.............IN THE YEAR OF 01'. NOW THAT THE LESSON IS OVER, THE KILLINGS BEGUN.......

02-07-2008, 11:29 AM	#82
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Spagnuolo or Fassel? Why did that warrant an "OH SHIT" response? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-07-2008, 11:38 AM	#83
Soup's Uncle Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Damascus, MD Posts: 354	Re: Spagnuolo or Fassel? If its Fassel, I'm gonna be pissed. I'm still praying Mooch gets it, but it ain't gonna happen.

02-07-2008, 11:53 AM	#85
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Spagnuolo or Fassel? It seems like there are maybe 3 people on this board that actually want Fassel to get this job. I am not one of the 3. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

02-07-2008, 11:55 AM	#86
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Spagnuolo or Fassel? I'm sick of JLC and his "spot on sources", the guy changes candidates like the weather. First he got us excited about Williams, then Mooch, then Spags and now he goes back to Fassel who all along has been the HC candidate. I'm sick of all the DS BS just name a HC and get it over with!! Most of us will be pissed and the backlash will begin. People will start arguing to give him a chance (which is fair) others will call for his head. I personally will judge him on the first 5 games. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

02-07-2008, 12:00 PM	#87
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Spagnuolo or Fassel? SPAGS IS OUT!! Spagnuolo turns down 'Skins, sticking with Giants __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

02-07-2008, 12:06 PM	#89
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Spagnuolo or Fassel? Looks like we will be more than likely welcoming Jim Fassel into the fold. I think he'll work well with Jim Zorn. I'm eager to get things going! __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

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