Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Bad offer!! 2 possible first round picks for a player who's about to turn 30 and is a malcontent. No thanks!! Please Cincy, stick to your guns.

He's a malcontent cause of the losing team he's on. I would be also. As far as the 2 first rounders that's incorrect. It's this yrs 1st and next yrs 3rd for all of you who are saying CJ is not worth it and would destroy the team. It only becomes a first if he meets certain incentives....which most of you should not have a problem with concidering most of you believe he is a malcontent and would not reach those goals.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

He's a malcontent cause of the losing team he's on. I would be also. As far as the 2 first rounders that's incorrect. It's this yrs 1st and next yrs 3rd for all of you who are saying CJ is not worth it and would destroy the team. It only becomes a first if he meets certain incentives....which most of you should not have a problem with concidering most of you believe he is a malcontent and would not reach those goals.

I admit that I misread it at first. If he were to reach the goals and we had to give up two first rounders I would be torn on the decision. I am all for a 1st and a 3rd rounder though. So if we can get him and have him produce slightly under what is required for a 1st rounder. That would make my day.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

He's a malcontent cause of the losing team he's on. I would be also. As far as the 2 first rounders that's incorrect. It's this yrs 1st and next yrs 3rd for all of you who are saying CJ is not worth it and would destroy the team. It only becomes a first if he meets certain incentives....which most of you should not have a problem with concidering most of you believe he is a malcontent and would not reach those goals.

He has Carson Palmer for a QB, HoushmanXXXX for his wingman, Rudy Johnson, etc. I watched him play last year in many games and to be honest he's looked better in previous years. He dropped a lot of balls or couldn't get open or shake the defender. I think he best seasons are past him even if he's 30. Carson Palmer and CJ had some heated exchanges during some of those games cause CJ was too busy being funny and promoting himself like Deion Sanders and dropping lots of balls and running the wrong route. We don't need that kind of distraction

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He has Carson Palmer for a QB, HoushmanXXXX for his wingman, Rudy Johnson, etc. I watched him play last year in many games and to be honest he's looked better in previous years. He dropped a lot of balls or couldn't get open or shake the defender. I think he best seasons are past him even if he's 30. Carson Palmer and CJ had some heated exchanges during some of those games cause CJ was too busy being funny and promoting himself like Deion Sanders and dropping lots of balls and running the wrong route. We don't need that kind of distraction

Well he did still manage to catch 93 balls for 1440 yards and 8 scores.

You can't argue with that kind of production.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well he did still manage to catch 93 balls for 1440 yards and 8 scores.

You can't argue with that kind of production.

But did that production put the Bengals in the playoffs last season? We have more problems than wide receiver, and giving up a first and conditional third takes away from our ability to build depth, and is too much for someone who could end up acting as a divisive force in the locker room.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by KB24

But did that production put the Bengals in the playoffs last season? We have more problems than wide receiver, and giving up a first and conditional third takes away from our ability to build depth, and is too much for someone who could end up acting as a divisive force in the locker room.

No injuries and a junk defense kept them out the playoffs not Chad.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

No injuries and a junk defense kept them out the playoffs not Chad.

Our defense gave up a number of big plays in winnable games (Green Bay, Buffalo, Philadelphia, New York Giants) because of a lack of a pass rush and mistakes in the secondary. Breaking the bank and mortgaging the future on a wide receiver won't fix that.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by KB24

Our defense gave up a number of big plays in winnable games (Green Bay, Buffalo, Philadelphia, New York Giants) because of a lack of a pass rush and mistakes in the secondary. Breaking the bank and mortgaging the future on a wide receiver won't fix that.

I second that!! Amen.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by KB24

Our defense gave up a number of big plays in winnable games (Green Bay, Buffalo, Philadelphia, New York Giants) because of a lack of a pass rush and mistakes in the secondary. Breaking the bank and mortgaging the future on a wide receiver won't fix that.

yeah and of those games you said we had the lead in the majority of them but got complicent and easied up. Rather then push it and seal the deal on offense we had terrible play calling and numerous three and outs which put our tired defense out there...I don't care what defense is out there when you play like that you set yourself up for failure.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He has Carson Palmer for a QB, HoushmanXXXX for his wingman, Rudy Johnson, etc. I watched him play last year in many games and to be honest he's looked better in previous years. He dropped a lot of balls or couldn't get open or shake the defender. I think he best seasons are past him even if he's 30. Carson Palmer and CJ had some heated exchanges during some of those games cause CJ was too busy being funny and promoting himself like Deion Sanders and dropping lots of balls and running the wrong route. We don't need that kind of distraction

Nevermind the fact that Rudi Johnson played only 11 games last year and averaged less than 3 yards per carry.

Anyhow, CJ would have Moss and Cooley as wingmen here. Not to mention Portis