Javon Walker found Unconcious, Robbed in streets of Las Vegas

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

He draws attention to himself by being an athlete regardless of whether he has on a million dollars worth of jewelry or not.

You're missing my point. Yes, his status and salary in itself draw attention. But don't you see that going out with a huge knot of cash, flashy jewelry and having a champagne-spraying contest in a club till 630AM draws totally unnecessary attention?? My point is this- knowing you're a star athlete in today's culture, you need to take every precaution to avoid standing out as a target. He's a fool for acting this way, even though he has every right to do so.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You're missing my point. Yes, his status and salary in itself draw attention. But don't you see that going out with a huge knot of cash, flashy jewelry and having a champagne-spraying contest in a club till 630AM draws totally unnecessary attention?? My point is this- knowing you're a star athlete in today's culture, you need to take every precaution to avoid standing out as a target. He's a fool for acting this way, even though he has every right to do so.

AND, I would like to add,
as you point out, he has every right to do so. This is America, and philosophically, we have the freedom to go anywhere, and do anything we want within the law.
In reality, it might cost you...................it cost him.
With the things that are going on with athletes today, common sense must enter into the picture, or it might cost you......it cost him.

[Jamaican'Skin]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You're missing my point. Yes, his status and salary in itself draw attention. But don't you see that going out with a huge knot of cash, flashy jewelry and having a champagne-spraying contest in a club till 630AM draws totally unnecessary attention?? My point is this- knowing you're a star athlete in today's culture, you need to take every precaution to avoid standing out as a target. He's a fool for acting this way, even though he has every right to do so.

I don't see how that adds attention to him. If I see a pro athlete in any setting, in todays society, I'm automatically assuming that he has money, whether I see a wad of hundred dollar bills or not. And I am not alone in my assuptions. He took a risk by leaving his hotel room that night. So whether or not he was flashing 3grand around or not, he was going to be a target.

I think the problem that I am having with most of your arguments is that you guys are blaming his behavior for the predicament he got into. I think it has more to do with his status.

Dave Chapelle did a skit a while back, after he signed the major contract with Comedy Central. The skit showed Dave in different situations such as a barber shop, and at a mechanic. Just as he got to each scene and was about to pay, the news came on speaking about the amount of money he signed on for, and the other characters in the sketch automatically drove up the price of each service ridiculously and threatened him to pay. It was a pretty funny skit, but the point is with media such as ESPN broadcasting how much these athletes make whether or not they walk around with money in their pockets or not, they are targets.

I completely agree that these athletes should take every precaution to ensure their own safety, but that can only go so far. If someone wants to set you up to take a percentage of the millions that you're making, they can find a way to do it. To me, saying that him spraying the crowd with Dom P or waving his money around played an integral role in him getting robbed and assaulted is an excuse. It had more to do with who he was than what he was doing

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

I don't see how that adds attention to him. If I see a pro athlete in any setting, in todays society, I'm automatically assuming that he has money, whether I see a wad of hundred dollar bills or not. And I am not alone in my assuptions. He took a risk by leaving his hotel room that night. So whether or not he was flashing 3grand around or not, he was going to be a target.

I think the problem that I am having with most of your arguments is that you guys are blaming his behavior for the predicament he got into. I think it has more to do with his status.

Dave Chapelle did a skit a while back, after he signed the major contract with Comedy Central. The skit showed Dave in different situations such as a barber shop, and at a mechanic. Just as he got to each scene and was about to pay, the news came on speaking about the amount of money he signed on for, and the other characters in the sketch automatically drove up the price of each service ridiculously and threatened him to pay. It was a pretty funny skit, but the point is with media such as ESPN broadcasting how much these athletes make whether or not they walk around with money in their pockets or not, they are targets.

I completely agree that these athletes should take every precaution to ensure their own safety, but that can only go so far. If someone wants to set you up to take a percentage of the millions that you're making, they can find a way to do it. To me, saying that him spraying the crowd with Dom P or waving his money around played an integral role in him getting robbed and assaulted is an excuse. It had more to do with who he was than what he was doing

I agree with most of what you're saying. But come on. What draws more attention to your status/salary- walking incognito into a club with, as you said, a tee shirt and jeans, having a few drinks and leaving, OR flashing your money, your jewelry, and making huge scene by spraying everyone with expensive alcohol? To me it's a total no brainer. I'm not saying he wouldn't be a target without doing all that, but he's obviously drawing a massive amount of attention to said status/money by acting that way. It's a fact. He put himself at a much greater risk with his actions. It's pretty difficult to argue that. Don't you think there were plenty of people in that club who didn't recognize him until he started spraying the crowd??

You said it was his status, not his behavior. Well, my argument is his behavior drew totally unnecessary extra attention to his status. Pretty hard to disagree with that.