Judge Sides With Redskins in Team Name Suit

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

If the numbers were in favor of Native Americans fighting against this mascot/name, I have a hard time believing fans would suddenly have a change of heart and support a change. I think we'd still hear the arguments that the name is a symbol of pride or we've become to PC or the marginalized group is too sensitive.

Just because a small percentage of NAs are polled to be "against" the name, that doesn't make the term any less offensive. Type in "redskins" and "definition" in google- see what the dictionaries say. More sources than not include the word "offensive."

There was a time "Amos and Andy" was considered acceptable in popular culture. The civil rights movement changed things for the better. Take the time to see outside of your own looking glass and understand where the other side is coming from. Why hasn't there been a similar civil rights movement for Native Americans? Read some of the books listed in this thread and you'll understand why. Read beyond the numbers that say there isn't an outcry from the Native American people re: mascots and names. This group is uniquely different than any other group in the United States: namely in its historical treatment and current condition due to its past. The poll numbers are direct reflections of a deeper problem.

This is one instance where the power to change things may not come from the weakened group. This change must come from the ones in control. And as such, I don't see it changing any time soon.

I'm sorry, but WTF are you talking about? This post is so full of convoluted nonsense I can't even express how ridiculous it is. It sounds like you're trying desperately to find a way to dismiss the overwhelming empirical evidence against your argument.

So basically, the Native Americans are weak and can't stand up for themselves, so that's why they figure I might as well vote for complacency in this MSNBC poll? FOR WHAT? TO WHAT END? FOR WHAT PURPOSE? You make it sound like they're women with battered wives syndrome.

If you're asked in a harmless poll whether you find something offensive, you don't have to stand up and take a stand, or fight the good fight, or anything like that. You give your answer, you hang up the phone, and you go back to reading your kids a bedtime story. They have no reason to say they're not offended if in fact they are.

Bottom line: An astoundingly OVERWHELMING percentage said they did not find it offensive. You can read all the ridiculous books you want. But you can't change facts.