The Santana Moss Catch

[htownskinfan]

how about the Moss lets give up on the play no catch,2 games in a row now he's given up on plays and cost us

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

how about the Moss lets give up on the play no catch,2 games in a row now he's given up on plays and cost us

Opinions differ on wether he was downed or not but the ref blew the play dead so....

[Duffman003]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Opinions differ on wether he was downed or not but the ref blew the play dead so....

wasn't he still trying to gain control of the ball while the defensive back was celebrating?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Duffman003

wasn't he still trying to gain control of the ball while the defensive back was celebrating?

Mute point,the ref blew the whistle,the play is dead,not reviewable.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Mute point,the ref blew the whistle,the play is dead,not reviewable.

Absolutely right. The catch was made after contact and Moss should have been able to run. The official was wrong, but it isn't reviewable and if one play (any play) is the reason between winning and losing than you didn't do enough the rest of the game to win. I would argue that slapping a player while standing next to the ref deserves an unnecessary roughness penalty and throwing a CB to the ground should be offensive PI too. The other side is that a Giant (don't remember who) was called for a facemask on Portis that didn't exist. Refs aren't perfect so you can't leave the game in their hands.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Mute point,the ref blew the whistle,the play is dead,not reviewable.

Not "mute" - it's "moo", like a cow's opinion, it doesn't matter.

Still, your point (as elaborated on by rypper11), is correct.

[hucapn]

Really, I only bring up the size issue to add to a concern about the lack of physical size in Santana Moss. I don't question his desire to win the game (even though that Seattle game made me want to trade him right then). It's just that his skill set is so one-dimensional. He's basically Devin Hester with an offensive mindset. So if we don't have other pieces, a la the possesion reciever who can get to the sticks and secure a hitch ( ah hem #12, his name will not be mentioned until he steps foot on to the field) or a true number one guy, Moss and his lack of chemistry makes his amazing speed and agility a hinderance to our team as far as throwing vertical.
All that to the side, Zorn just needs to run his offense. Too many times we lined up in two wide sets and ran the ball. If Zorn is going to lead this team anywhere, we need to hop out there and FULLY RUN THE WEST COAST OFFENSE! I went to a lot of sessions in Ashburn. I want to see those packages where they throw screens to Fred Davis when hes split wide left, ON FIRST DOWN. The West coast works by catching the defense off guard. Running the ball will never catch the Redskins opponents off guard because WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE DAMN BALL SINCE SPURRIER.(sorry to the fans like myself who blocked out the painful memory of that era. Trung Candidate, Shuler, ..tear) Zorn needs to make Jason Campbell throw that shit 30-40 times a game, good or bad. He needs to throw those interceptions and learn like everyone else. When coachs have faith in their quarterbacks they call throws when they need first downs in key situations. Quaterbacks know that too. It's third and anything inside of five Portis is getting the ball. NOT TO DOWN PORTIS.(he plays hard as hell, a little crazy with the costumes but did you see that block? JACKED UP!!!) His talents will be best suited running draws, screens, and counters out of a three or four receiver set. CAN FRED DAVIS GET ON THE FIELD? CAN WE THROW THE M@#$%F%$#@@ING BALL TO CHRIS COOLEY)
I guess I'm just disappointed, but we are mismanaging talents from the top down as an organization right now. I think Snyder just needs to pay a guy to make the decisions for him. Parcells would have been a good fit, as blasphemous as that is to say being a former coach of the two most dispicable teams in the NFL, besides Philadelphia who is equally dispicable. Let's just play football. On some levels its complicated, but on Sunday it's about our team wanting to win more than the other squad. The Giants are better and they were ready to execute their gameplan. Burress looked worth everything they paid him and he knew it. Brandon Jacobs DEMOLISHED our best defender. Eli went about his business with that stupid ass look like he always does. (His face looks like its stuck on the word "darn") Zorn was trying to get first downs with the starting offense. The "D" stood up but not really. We have problems to fix as a squad. They need to knight London Fletcher or something. GET MOTIVATED SKINS!! The city needs it!!