Our lack of a secondary receiver is killing us

[GTripp0012]

SF, Randle El has been cutting it ALL year. Did you notice that he wasn't available for the last two drives, and that's why no one was open?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

SF, Randle El has been cutting it ALL year. Did you notice that he wasn't available for the last two drives, and that's why no one was open?

I think ARE is 50/50; sometimes here's there and sometimes he's dropping the ball.

Moss is pretty much money, barring he's not dropping deep balls (granted, that's not often). But if Moss is 100% and ARE is 50%, we still need a receiver that can be that 75%.

And btw, where the hell is Fred Davis?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

SF, Randle El has been cutting it ALL year. Did you notice that he wasn't available for the last two drives, and that's why no one was open?

Well, that depends on how you define "cutting it." I'll give you this, Zorn is working him into the gameplan way better than Gibbs ever did.

Before tonight, we were 18th in the league in passing overall, and 25th in the league in terms of passing yardage. So if you mean that Randle El has kept us from being utterly pathetic in the passing game, then you may have a point.

But like I said at the end of last year, Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El as a tandem are not going to win this team any championships. Then again, this offensive line won't help us win another game if they don't get their act together.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Well, that depends on how you define "cutting it." I'll give you this, Zorn is working him into the gameplan way better that Gibbs ever did.

Before tonight, we were 18th in the league in passing overall, and 25th in the league in terms of passing yardage. So if you mean that Randle El has kept us from being utterly pathetic in the passing game, then you may have a point.

But like I said at the end of last year, Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El as a tandem are not going to win this team any championships.

Well, coming into tonight, Randle El was catching damn near 80% of what's been thrown at him, and averaging over 9 yards an attempt. His ONLY weakness is that he's not a serious deep threat. It took about 25 games for Al Saunders to figure that out, and since he has, Randle El has been money.

Moss' hands aren't as good as Randle El, but he can run every route on the field and is our only deep threat. I don't count Devin Thomas because 10 games into his career, he can't even line up right.

One thing that no one notices is that the Redskins receivers as a whole are very smart and never really line up out of place. Thomas is a rookie, yes, but you can't teach a sense of the game, which he simply isn't ever going to have.

Devin Thomas will have better games. I don't think he'll ever be dependable.

[Beemnseven]

Last year, I said that Moss and Randle El weren't shaping up to be the #1 and #2 wideouts that were going to lead us anywhere, but that was with Campbell who hadn't progressed the way he has this year. But that was also with better pass protection up front.

Now, the pass protection has gone to shit, Campbell is progressing nicely and our passing game as a whole still is at the bottom half of the league.

So every year there is a new reason that we cannot mount a decent aerial attack. Maybe it's not the receiver's fault. Either way, Moss and Randle El aren't going anywhere (I don't think), so they'll have another crack at it in 2009.

And man, I hope you're mistaken about Devin Thomas -- though he done absolutely NOTHING to prove you wrong so far.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, coming into tonight, Randle El was catching damn near 80% of what's been thrown at him, and averaging over 9 yards an attempt. His ONLY weakness is that he's not a serious deep threat. It took about 25 games for Al Saunders to figure that out, and since he has, Randle El has been money.

Moss' hands aren't as good as Randle El, but he can run every route on the field and is our only deep threat. I don't count Devin Thomas because 10 games into his career, he can't even line up right.

One thing that no one notices is that the Redskins receivers as a whole are very smart and never really line up out of place. Thomas is a rookie, yes, but you can't teach a sense of the game, which he simply isn't ever going to have.

Devin Thomas will have better games. I don't think he'll ever be dependable.

Would u go so far to say Thomas is officially a bust or will he make a contribution @ some point?

[GMScud]

It starts at the line of scrimmage. Our 2nd and 3rd WR's may look better if we could protect Jason. We can't block anybody, and we can't rush the passer. It's so damn annoying.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It starts at the line of scrimmage. Our 2nd and 3rd WR's may look better if we could protect Jason. We can't block anybody, and we can't rush the passer. It's so damn annoying.

Yeah, that's the bottom line. Rice and Taylor, Irvin and Harper -- none of those guys in their prime would matter if Campbell has a DLineman in his face before he takes three steps back.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yeah, that's the bottom line. Rice and Taylor, Irvin and Harper -- none of those guys in their prime would matter if Campbell has a DLineman in his face before he takes three steps back.

Don't forget JJ Stokes and Tai Streets.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It starts at the line of scrimmage. Our 2nd and 3rd WR's may look better if we could protect Jason. We can't block anybody, and we can't rush the passer. It's so damn annoying.

this is a winner. other then that first drive, Campbell pretty much was running for his life. cant throw it, if you cant block it( stealing from Mike Singletary)