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Old 12-02-2008, 07:03 PM   #31
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

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The quick answer is no. Good O and D lineman don't become available until they are no longer good, generally.



So your telling me there's a chance???
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:45 AM   #32
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Carolina moves him all over the place. The way Evans has played though, I don't think we have a hole at LDE if we can get him resigned. Andre Carter though is a no doubt above average defensive end against both the run and the pass. So if we signed Peppers, it would be to replace Evans in the lineup, and though they are the same age, it would just be the same type of mistake we make year after year if Peppers disappoints.

We clog the LDE position, probably overpay for the guy, and then the sack production still doesn't significantly improve. Because the problem is interior DL/scheme related (in the sense that pre-snap reads are effective against us, so QBs can get the ball out under pressure).

I think the fact that Jason Taylor hasn't improved our sack rate, and has actually forced Carter's sack production to decline is about as solid as evidence gets that personnel at end is not the reason why we can't sack QBs.

I agree with this 100%. There are a lot of D-Lines out there getting a ton more pressure than ours with a lot less talent. I think i read some where that the d-line plays for the run and don't drive to the QB per Blache's choice. I would love a change of direction of the defensive schemes. I know we have a "highly" ranked defense, but do you really think they are one of the best???
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:53 AM   #33
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

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BL is that we will need to spend some of our highest draft picks and some FA dollars to improve both our OL and DL. We need talent, speed and youth.

Both of our lines are getting old, which causes the deterioration we see later in the season.

Last season Vinny went for the flash with 2 WR and a TE. Now we need to go for the trenches and hope the WR we picked this season start to pan out.
I wish they provided some flash.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:05 AM   #34
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I wish they provided some flash.
Maybe some body glitter to attrack the eyes of the OLINE. Than, they can flirt their way past them.
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:08 PM   #35
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Draft, Draft, Draft!!!

I think a lot of people are mistaking a lack of exucution from this team as a lack of talent; I'd argue that we have a fair amount of young talent on this team but we need more, and we need it desperately on the O-line. I think Zorn and the players just need another year to work out the kinks, if our trio from last year can get their s#*+ together and we have a good draft next offseason I think this team will develop into a real contender.

Unfortunately we're still going to be duking it out with the likes of DAL and NY, but we're not too far off as it is and if we develop our young talent we could certainly catch up. NY seems to have done a great job drafting the past few years, especially on that D-line, we have to hope we can do the same.

That said, Haynesworth is a beast. I'd be totally on board for that move, but even if we do manage to sign him I'd still look to draft DL. IMHO we only really have 3 areas of needs . . . aside from wr, we gotta hope the boys'll pan out, we simply can't justify landing another wr . . . OL, DL, and LB. If we improve just the O-line we're a good team. We improve both OL and DL, we're a very good team; and if this years rooks can finally step up, and contribute ANYTHING we're a great team.

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Old 12-03-2008, 12:12 PM   #36
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Draft, Draft, Draft!!!

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That said, Haynesworth is a beast. I'd be totally on board for that move, but even if we do manage to sign him I'd still look to draft DL. IMHO we only really have 3 areas of needs . . . aside from wr, we gotta hope the boys'll pan out, we simply can't justify landing another wr . . . OL, DL, and LB. If we improve just the O-line we're a good team. We improve both OL and DL, we're a very good team; and if this years rooks can finally step up, and contribute ANYTHING we're a great team.

Hail to the future!!
i agree with all said...haynesworth would be worth the money. BUT In the draft i would look for a dynamic lb to replace washington. It hasnt been the same since lavar left. EVen tho his numbers werent all pro he was all over the field until lindsay and gibbs ruined him
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Old 12-07-2008, 05:35 PM   #37
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I think if we signed Jordan Gross and let him play left tackle, we could move Samuels to the Right, extending his career and having an all pro left tackle to back up the left tackle. I think this would dramaticaly improve our Oline, assuming that Samuels can play right tackle.
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Old 12-07-2008, 05:42 PM   #38
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Fill needs via the draft!
don't we only have 1, 3, 5 and 6 round picks?

2nd went for taylor... 4th for kendall.. 7th for ummm I forget
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don't we only have 1, 3, 5 and 6 round picks?

2nd went for taylor... 4th for kendall.. 7th for ummm I forget
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:02 PM   #41
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I would not break the bank on Haynesworth . He is playing great now because he is in the last year of his contract . Give him 25 million up front , he might not be so motivated to get up and workout everyday . As far as our lack of a pass rush , our front 4 have no explosiveness , it has nothing to do with scheme on 3rd and 10 . We need an end and DT as well as help on the OL .
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:21 PM   #42
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Let's just Draft "Mount" Cody from alabama, he's exactly what we need in the middle of the dline. I think our ends are fine but they always get double covered because our interior pass rush is so weak.
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:45 PM   #43
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I'm starting to get the impression that Blache would rather have a pass rushing linebacker then an elite DE. If thats true I would look out for Suggs assuming the Ravens don't franchise him.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:02 PM   #44
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

Time to get rid of M. Washington and S. Springs. I like them both and they have been great assets to our team but with their constant injuries they are hurting us more than helping.

I think we need to use the draft as a way to build back our lines.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:20 PM   #45
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Time to start looking for a new field goal kicker. Add that to our list.
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