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12-14-2008, 11:57 PM
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Living Legend
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
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Re: On Blache
I said this another thread and I'll say again. The defense has been a top ten group the whole year. We're good at points allowed, yardage and 3 and outs. We don't sack the QB because we can't. We don't have pass rushers. The one real playmaker we had was tragically killled. The offense puts them in shitty postions all the time...like today when Santana had to show off after he scored....then our sorry as hell kicker kicks it out of bounds. Blache and his group has held it together considering the circumstances. We're not the most talented defesne but those guys get the job done. For anyone to call out Blache and the defense simply do not know a damn thing about football.
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12-15-2008, 01:43 AM
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Location: Evanston, IL
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We have nothing but pass rushers at defensive end. That's all Chris Wilson, and Jason Taylor can do. Carter is a strong pass rusher. Even Evans is stronger against the pass than he is the run. Yet, they still never get sacks. Gee, it couldn't be because a man who claims that "sacks don't matter" is coaching the defense? Quote:
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12-15-2008, 10:09 AM
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Living Legend
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12-15-2008, 06:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Or the D-philosophy doesn't allow for it. I think Taylor and Carter are still starters elsewhere but I've heard the Blache's set-up actually encourages them to make sure it isn't a run before heading all out to the QB |
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12-15-2008, 06:27 PM
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The Starter
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: On Blache
As I said in another thread...
Our Defense (and definitely Blache) is NOT TO BLAME!! The ONLY stat that matters is POINTS ALLOWED... or am I wrong?? * Our defense has not given up more than 24 points in a game all season (Pittsburgh is only other team to say that) - 12 teams are AVERAGING allowing more than 24 per game!! And one is a playoff team (Arizona) * OUR defense averages giving up 19.0 per game - 7th in the NFL!! * Our defense is doing this with an offense that is NOT controlling the clock or punters who are pinning teams back. * Our defense SEEMS to be the problem because they have NO ROOM FOR ERROR... lol... if they give up 2 touchdowns in one game, we all know it's over (i.e. the Ravens game) * Look at the games where our D gives in late in the 4th and they were games where our Offense went 3 & out for most of the 1st half (Dallas, Baltimore, Cincinnati) and the D was on the field for much of the day... holding the other team at bay... Really, when you think about it, Blache deserves A LOT of credit.. I think... We have absolutely no pass rush (which puts pressure on our secondary), but Blache's philosophy is "the team that runs more productively will win the majority of games" ... So his scheme is allowing us to have a top passing defense (opposing pass offenses have terrible numbers against us - 55% completions & 75.1 QB rating) while still being an above average run stopping team (ranked 10th, 3.8 ypc)... this equals not many points allowed.... WHICH IS WHAT REALLY MATTERS... and although I HATE not getting pressure, the stats above don't lie...
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12-15-2008, 07:22 PM
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You are wrong. A non-stat matters too. When those points are given up. Those breakdowns happen when the Skins are still technically in the game. And I don't believe it's just them being tired, because they manage to get it together if there's a drive or two later. But by then it's to late. The Skins go from trying to make up one score in say eight minutes, to making up two scores, a totally different prospect, that calls for totally different plays. |
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12-15-2008, 08:05 PM
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Living Legend
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
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And it's because you don't know how to use statistics to help you decide what the problems are. It's because you are trying to use them to prove that you are right, when you are not willing to consider the possibility that you are wrong. You say that our offense doesn't control the clock. That's not true. They are top ten in time of possession. You say that they have no margin for error, because if they give up two touchdowns in a game, they lose. I'll guarantee you that any defense that allows a TD to the Bengals on 25% of it's drives will lose. We have no pass rush because Blache doesn't care about sacks. We have a below average pass defense because he sells out to stop the run. Our opponents that have horrible passing numbers against us also have worse numbers against everyone else. We've played Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Seattle, St. Louis, Cleveland, Detroit, and now Cincinnati. That was our entire non-divisional schedule in the time since our 4-1 start. We haven't played them very well at all on defense. And most importantly, whenever we need a third down stop, we give up easy completions and can't get off the field.
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12-15-2008, 10:28 PM
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The Starter
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa... 1) Check the time of possession over the passed 6 games... 2) I'll guarantee you that the Bungles are averaging 25.6 points allowed. They scored 20 against us. I'll guarantee you that 10 of their 13 other opponents have scored 20 or more vs them this year. 3) Below average pass defense?? HUH?? Opponents completing 55% of their passes (3rd in NFL), a 75.1 QB rating against us (7th), 6.35 yards per attempt (5th), only 188 ypg against (6th)... all of this is BELOW average?? 4) Talk about "not knowing how to use statistics" to make an argument.... Roethlisberger - 29.4 completion % / 15.1 QB rating vs Skins - 59.4% comp / 80.2 QBR overall Flacco - 47% comp / 64.4 QBR vs Skins - 58.7% comp / 76.9 QBR overall Hasselbeck - 50% comp /54.7 QBR vs Skins - 52% comp / 57.8 QBR overall Bulger - 136 yds passing vs Skins Anderson - 37.8% comp / 57.9 QBR vs Skins - 50.2% comp /66.5 QBR overall and for the big ones.... Brees - season low 216yds, 69.6 QB Rating vs Skins - 93.9 QBR overall and Warner - season low 192 yds, 53.3% comp, 81.5 QBR vs Skins - 68.4%/97.5 QBR overall So how does every team pass the ball WORSE against other teams?? Seriously... do not talk about someone not knowing how to read statistics... enough with the attacks, if you disagree, fine, but people don't go attacking others when you make no sense at all yourself...
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12-16-2008, 12:48 AM
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Playmaker
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: On Blache
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 OVER THE LINE! |
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12-17-2008, 11:11 AM
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Special Teams
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Virginia
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Re: On Blache
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I totally agree with this. The defense's job is to stop the other team from scoring. Giving up 19 per game is more than adequate.... they have given us the chance to win pretty much every game (except Pitt and Giants). If our offense was as good as our D we would be in the playoffs. Still need a pass rush though...then the D would be sick. |
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