For the Zorn / Campbell Excuse makers...

[PennSkinsFan]

Listen, JC deserves some blame. The lack of a second receiver deserves blame. The pathetic offensive lien deserves blame. The play calling deserves blame. The Zorn/Portis situation deserves blame. The fact that players quit deserves blame. The fact this team is and not close to playing at a NYG, PITT, level is reality.

But to say it is all JC, or all Zorn, or all this. It is only one thing folks. Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder created this team, created this atmosphere. They deserve the blame.

Good bring in a new QB, bring in a new Coach, and what are you going to get? As long as these two idiots are calling the shots, you will have more of the same. This is 8 years of frustration folks, 8 years.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Listen, JC deserves some blame. The lack of a second receiver deserves blame. The pathetic offensive lien deserves blame. The play calling deserves blame. The Zorn/Portis situation deserves blame. The fact that players quit deserves blame. The fact this team is and not close to playing at a NYG, PITT, level is reality.

But to say it is all JC, or all Zorn, or all this. It is only one thing folks. Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder created this team, created this atmosphere. They deserve the blame.

Good bring in a new QB, bring in a new Coach, and what are you going to get? As long as these two idiots are calling the shots, you will have more of the same. This is 8 years of frustration folks, 8 years.

the same fans who want zorn and JC fired are the same fans who make threads about danny and vinny not being patient and creating a mess of a franchise. firing zorn this year will only add his name to the list with marty of things danny screwed up . . . are we really encouraging our meddling owner to do another overhaul after 1 year when our biggest collective fan knock on danny is his lack of patience? do you see the irony in this? maybe its just me.

go skins!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

the same fans who want zorn and JC fired are the same fans who make threads about danny and vinny not being patient and creating a mess of a franchise. firing zorn this year will only add his name to the list with marty of things danny screwed up . . . are we really encouraging our meddling owner to do another overhaul after 1 year when our biggest collective fan knock on danny is his lack of patience? do you see the irony in this? maybe its just me.

go skins!!

It's not just you. What Snyder can't do is just be another fan like he once was. He's not just a fan, he's the owner of the team and he can't panic the way all of us can. If he decides for whatever reason to let Zorn go at the end of this year, it will be very difficult for him to show anyone that he (or anyone else in that front office) has any sort of plan. We have to have the patience to be awful, I mean rally really awful. Because there are a lot of guys on our team who aren't playing that need to play regularly, and the fact is they may stink bad for a couple of years until they have any chance of getting better. But the reality is none of us have that sort of patience.

[Joe Kidd]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

the same fans who want zorn and JC fired are the same fans who make threads about danny and vinny not being patient and creating a mess of a franchise. firing zorn this year will only add his name to the list with marty of things danny screwed up . . . are we really encouraging our meddling owner to do another overhaul after 1 year when our biggest collective fan knock on danny is his lack of patience? do you see the irony in this? maybe its just me.

go skins!!

LOL too true, too true