For the Zorn / Campbell Excuse makers...

[Hail to the Redskins]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

If one wishes to criticize the Redskins, there exists ample material with which to do that. Many posters on this site have produced effective and often devastating analyses attacking both the coaching staff and the players. Very edifying, love reading it. However, comparing the Skins to the Dolphins, or Falcons, or 85 Bears, or 96 Chicago Bulls, or whatever is completely arbitrary and irrelevant. That’s not the standard by which we judge them. Now, it's one thing to produce smart analysis drawing parallels between coaching staffs with similar traits and circumstances. This type of soft-analysis is what good sportswriters and good posters do. It is another to point at a different team with a new coach and QB and say, see, their success mathematically, incontrovertibly proves the Redskins suck. One is interesting, the other is ass stoopid.

I wouldn't have so big a problem with your thread if you weren't imbuing it with the language of statistics, something you clearly don't understand.

"the language of statistics" you are mentioning would be...? Points scored and points allowed??? Record versus the worst teams in football (a combined 5-47-1 aginst the rest of the league)??

231 points scored for one team compared to 336, 325, 283 for the other three... help me with understanding these tough statistics...which is better??

oh yeah, that's right... points don't matter when comparing one team to another.. right?


And who said anything about the '85 Bears??? Are you seriously criticizing my post when you take a little bit of information and stretch it as far as you possibly can with words just to try and support some really idiotic analysis? Like I need your approval for anything??

I am comparing 4 teams with new Head Coaches who have had to install new offenses with 4 "new" (to the system) QB's ... using the only stat that REALLY matters... POINTS! ... yeah, apples to grapes....

let's just agree to disagree because I can't read anymore mid-numbingly ignorant people who only want to criticize other people when make absolutely no common sense themselves...

if you disagree that JC and JZ should be to blame for our season, fine, just say so... but to attack me personally with no reasonable logic....

[30gut]

Look you makes some good points, but how can you assign all the blame to JC who has improved and a first year/last minute HC that didn't even have the time/chance to bring in his own staff except for an OC that doesn't even know the WCO and an assistant from St.Olaf?


The offensive line doesn't deserve any blame?
Offensive line coaching?

Receivers not getting open? Dropping passes? Not making big plays?
WR coaching?

The main thing that bothers me about your post is that you gloss over the 2 most important factors in the Ravens and Falcons offensive success. The
offensive coordinator/offensive line coach.

Can Zorn get some credit for taking a team, that everyone wrote off at the start of the season, to 6-2 now 7-7 when people picked them to go 4-11?

Can Zorn get some credit for putting out an creative offense during the 6-2 run?

Can Zorn get some credit for holding it all together while serving as HC/OC/QB coach?