Gregg Williams out in J-Ville

[SkinEmAll]

Both Greggs are very good coaches. I like both of them and believe GW will do fine somewhere else. Blanche has done a good job putting the players we have in position to make plays. The problem is none of our playmakers are on the D line. If you look at the D stats from last year and this year, their almost exactly the same, and Blanche and company have done it without ST. So I disagree completely with any notion of change for the DC position. I completely agree with adding some studs to the D line.

[Otis Wonsley]

Gregg Williams is a talented D Coordinator but with his personality I think that his act gets old after a while and players start tuning him out. Plus there comes a point where management gets tired of his crap after a while too.

I know a diehard Bills fan, trust me we did not want him as a head coach.

[Ruhskins]

I know Blache is no G-Williams and there are somethings that defense should be doing; but I honestly believe we would have been with a losing record earlier in the season if it weren't for our defense.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Otis Wonsley

Gregg Williams is a talented D Coordinator but with his personality I think that his act gets old after a while and players start tuning him out. Plus there comes a point where management gets tired of his crap after a while too.

I know a diehard Bills fan, trust me we did not want him as a head coach.

True, although some say that he changed, or at least tempered, his abrasive personality during his years with Gibbs. I think even Williams himself has admitted as much.

I doubt Williams will return here, but it's not entirely out the realm of possibility. In fact, I would say I wouldn't at all be surprised. He still has a tight bond with the players. Contrary to popular belief, he and Snyder get along fine and if Zorn were to be let go (which I think is probably at around 80% right now) then there are only a couple of coaches out there who Snyder could go after that would be able to mitigate, to some extent, the pr damage that would be done if Zorn was not the coach next season (whatever the reason may be).

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I actually feel worse for Williams than for anybody within the Redskins franchise. I guess I was one of the few who believed he should have been the HC w/ Saunders staying on w/ total control of the offense. I truly believe Snyder's massive ego got in the way because Williams came across as so confident in his own leadership.

I hope Williams gets his shot w/ a great franchise.

So its once again Snyders fault and Williams not lasting in Jax is probably Snyders fault too.

[Stacks42]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

True, although some say that he changed, or at least tempered, his abrasive personality during his years with Gibbs. I think even Williams himself has admitted as much.

I doubt Williams will return here, but it's not entirely out the realm of possibility. In fact, I would say I wouldn't at all be surprised. He still has a tight bond with the players. Contrary to popular belief, he and Snyder get along fine and if Zorn were to be let go (which I think is probably at around 80% right now) then there are only a couple of coaches out there who Snyder could go after that would be able to mitigate, to some extent, the pr damage that would be done if Zorn was not the coach next season (whatever the reason may be).

Really? You think the the probability is that high? The reason the skins have sucked for so many years, is that they lack a cohesive strategy, they eventually are going to have stick with one coach/system if they want to win.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Really? You think the the probability is that high? The reason the skins have sucked for so many years, is that they lack a cohesive strategy, they eventually are going to have stick with one coach/system if they want to win.

Well if it was lack of a cohesive strategy why did we do so good at the begining of the year only to have problem in the second half of the year? You would think just the oposit would have happened if this was the case.

[Skins4L]

i think he couldnt get it goin in Jacksonville because of personell...they had severe secondary issues (Rashean Mathis also injured later in the year). I think our D would have flourished if we woulda kept his system. BRING EM BACK! BRING EM BACK!

[Defensewins]

There are a few fundamental things I do not like about Blache's defenses.

1) They do not disguise anything. When a player is going to blitz they give it away by crowding the line of scrimmage, telegraphing that they are coming. They do not do a good job of disguising their coverages in the secondary and gap responsibilities on the D-line. That is just poor coaching. The element of suprise is very important in football. Only super talented teams can get away with telegraphing what they are going to do becasue they are going to beat you with shear superior ability. Sorry, we are not that good.

2) I do not like the way Blache has used some of his players. The obvious one, J. Taylor is not a strong side RDE. Put him where he blongs on the weakside RDE position. Playing Smoot over Hall and Springs. He has not situation substituted his LB's enough. I do like that he benched Rocky after a miserable 1st half last week, but itcame a game too late.
Rocky is a little light in the size department. Fincher played much more physical and played well in place of Rocky. I would play Finher and Blades on the outside on obvious running plays. Teams are going to continue to run at our DE's, so our OLB bettter be able to stop the run. Bring Rocky in on obvious pass plays to use his speed to cover backs.

[Dirtbag59]

Maybe it's just mental masturbation but how wonderful would it be to add Peppers and Haynesworth to our line. Right now we have the potential to clear about $24 million in cap room which should be more then enough to sign both of them a top tier free agent lineman like Gross and resign Hall and Rogers to long term deals with low cap numbers in 2009. Especially with an uncapped year on the horizon. God I know it's highly unlikely but Haynesworth would give us a huge push up the middle while Peppers would give us someone big enough to play the Left side and get after the passer.

Man I really have gone crazy.

[Skins4L]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Maybe it's just mental masturbation but how wonderful would it be to add Peppers and Haynesworth to our line. Right now we have the potential to clear about $24 million in cap room which should be more then enough to sign both of them a top tier free agent lineman like Gross and resign Hall and Rogers to long term deals with low cap numbers in 2009. Especially with an uncapped year on the horizon. God I know it's highly unlikely but Haynesworth would give us a huge push up the middle while Peppers would give us someone big enough to play the Left side and get after the passer.

Man I really have gone crazy.

Not Crazy, highly hopeful maybe though. Haynesworth would definetly be #1 on my FA list.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

i think he couldnt get it goin in Jacksonville because of personell...they had severe secondary issues (Rashean Mathis also injured later in the year). I think our D would have flourished if we woulda kept his system. BRING EM BACK! BRING EM BACK!

The WHOLE coaching staff would be in jeopardy if i was owner.

And i believe the team needs to stick to coaches for several years to get a good feel. But i dont believe we found our guys this season. So how can you be cohesive? I say...
Cowher- Head Coach
G Williams- D Coordinator
Zorn- QB Coach (solely for the Development of Campbell in `10)

This is so unrealistic, do you really believe that could be the coaching staff next year?

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

They've had a rough year all around in Jax, I wonder if Del Rio could be next.

I would bet a paycheck that Del Rio gets canned. Jacksonville was supposed to be in the thick of the SB hunt this year. They lost all those linemen early and BAM!!!!!!

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

True, although some say that he changed, or at least tempered, his abrasive personality during his years with Gibbs. I think even Williams himself has admitted as much.

I doubt Williams will return here, but it's not entirely out the realm of possibility. In fact, I would say I wouldn't at all be surprised. He still has a tight bond with the players. Contrary to popular belief, he and Snyder get along fine and if Zorn were to be let go (which I think is probably at around 80% right now) then there are only a couple of coaches out there who Snyder could go after that would be able to mitigate, to some extent, the pr damage that would be done if Zorn was not the coach next season (whatever the reason may be).

Cowher baby Cowher!!!!!!!!

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

i think he couldnt get it goin in Jacksonville because of personell...they had severe secondary issues (Rashean Mathis also injured later in the year). I think our D would have flourished if we woulda kept his system. BRING EM BACK! BRING EM BACK!

The WHOLE coaching staff would be in jeopardy if i was owner.

And i believe the team needs to stick to coaches for several years to get a good feel. But i dont believe we found our guys this season. So how can you be cohesive? I say...
Cowher- Head Coach
G Williams- D Coordinator
Zorn- QB Coach (solely for the Development of Campbell in `10)

Campbell is released after '09 if Zorn is shown the door. Shoot if he doesn't produce anything under Cowher in '09 he might be let go. Nothing on JC, but not sure Snyder is going to give JC a raise for what we have seen from him thus far, plus Cowher might want "his guy".