OG and OC are bigger needs than OT

[GTripp0012]

It's hard to see Jansen not somewhere in the starting lineup with the heavy contract he has. We might bump him inside still, but I think he can still handle RT, if we put some decent players inside of him.

[GMScud]

You're a confused dude BigHair. On Wednesday I suggested we take the best OL or LB available at 13, and I listed some names, one of which was Duke Robinson, the guard from Oklahoma.

Your response to my suggestion:

"I dont get all the love for duke robinson... he's a guard. You dont take a guard in the 1st round... its just foolish. besides, we've already got Rinehart, Thomas, and Kendall could resign here. Have Rinehart start with either Thomas or Kendall, alongside Samuels, a new center and a new RT, and our offensive line will be fine next year. We can then replace Thomas/Kendall in 2010."

Link: http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post518617

Then today you start a thread suggesting how badly we need guards and that we should take Duke Robinson in the 1st round. To quote you, that's "foolish," no?? Care to explain?

I suppose in the last 48 hours you had some revelation about how drafting a guard in the first round goes from foolish to a necessity.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You're a confused dude BigHair. On Wednesday I suggested we take the best OL or LB available at 13, and I listed some names, one of which was Duke Robinson, the guard from Oklahoma.

Your response to my suggestion:

I dont get all the love for duke robinson... he's a guard. You dont take a guard in the 1st round... its just foolish. besides, we've already got Rinehart, Thomas, and Kendall could resign here. Have Rinehart start with either Thomas or Kendall, alongside Samuels, a new center and a new RT, and our offensive line will be fine next year. We can then replace Thomas/Kendall in 2010.

Link: http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post518617

Then today you start a thread suggesting how badly we need guards and that we should take Duke Robinson in the 1st round. To quote you, that's "foolish," no?? Care to explain?

I suppose in the last 48 hours you had some revelation about how drafting a guard in the first round goes from foolish to a necessity.

It said it on a Mock Draft website so it must be true. Those sites are gold!

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

It said it on a Mock Draft website so it must be true. Those sites are gold!

I get your point. Everything is just speculation right now, but its not like we have anything better (skins-related) to talk about.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You're a confused dude BigHair. On Wednesday I suggested we take the best OL or LB available at 13, and I listed some names, one of which was Duke Robinson, the guard from Oklahoma.

Your response to my suggestion:

I dont get all the love for duke robinson... he's a guard. You dont take a guard in the 1st round... its just foolish. besides, we've already got Rinehart, Thomas, and Kendall could resign here. Have Rinehart start with either Thomas or Kendall, alongside Samuels, a new center and a new RT, and our offensive line will be fine next year. We can then replace Thomas/Kendall in 2010.

Link: http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post518617

Then today you start a thread suggesting how badly we need guards and that we should take Duke Robinson in the 1st round. To quote you, that's "foolish," no?? Care to explain?

I suppose in the last 48 hours you had some revelation about how drafting a guard in the first round goes from foolish to a necessity.

In principle, and as a general rule, guard is one of those positions where a guy who usually goes in the lower 1st round is not much better than a guy you can get in the 2nd or 3rd round. I was also basing it on a Ross Tucker SI.com article (about a year old) where he argued that guard was the least important OL position.

However, everywhere I went, people kept talking about duke robinson. duke robinson this. duke robinson that... so i actually checked the guy out. i was just ignorant of the fact that Duke Robinson is the next Hutch - one of the guys thats so far above his peers, he's worth taking that high. After thinking about it, all the elite Tackles are going to be gone by the time we pick at 13. Aaron Curry will probably be off the board too. Then i looked at who was availabe in free agency, and there are some good guards there, but no one that is both YOUNG and a SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE over what we have now.

So that, combined with my explaination earlier, is why I changed my mind. I'm officially on the Duke Robinson bandwagon if he's there when we pick at 13. Alot can - and will - happen between now and the draft. Its all too early to know what we will do - it all depends on how stupid Vinny is this offseason and what we do or do not do in free agency.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

In principle, and as a general rule, guard is one of those positions where a guy who usually goes in the lower 1st round is not much better than a guy you can get in the 2nd or 3rd round. I was also basing it on a Ross Tucker SI.com article (about a year old) where he argued that guard was the least important OL position.

However, everywhere I went, people kept talking about duke robinson. duke robinson this. duke robinson that... so i actually checked the guy out. i was just ignorant of the fact that Duke Robinson is the next Hutch - one of the guys thats so far above his peers, he's worth taking that high. After thinking about it, all the elite Tackles are going to be gone by the time we pick at 13. Aaron Curry will probably be off the board too. Then i looked at who was availabe in free agency, and there are some good guards there, but no one that is both YOUNG and a SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE over what we have now.

So that, combined with my explaination earlier, is why I changed my mind. I'm officially on the Duke Robinson bandwagon if he's there when we pick at 13. Alot can - and will - happen between now and the draft. Its all too early to know what we will do - it all depends on how stupid Vinny is this offseason and what we do or do not do in free agency.

Welcome. There's a reason people left and right have been touting Duke Robinson. Me and everyone else didn't pull his name out of a hat when suggesting he's worth a look in the 1st round.

One side note- he had a poor game last night against my Florida Gators - 3 costly penalties and was actually benched for a series. GO GATORS!

[Trample the Elderly]

I've been on the Duke Bandwagon too. Are any of the offensive linemen from the Gators up for the draft? I don't think that I can say yay or nay on Duke over one game. It was the big game though and it has caused me some doubt. At one point they did take him out of the game but he did return. I was looking forward to seeing how Duke and Phil did but I must admit that I fell asleep during the first quarter and didn't wake up until the third?