Greg Blache Defensive Scheme!!

[CRedskinsRule]

Any one remember the St. Louis game, (i do as it was the only one i was able to go to...) our offense may not have impressed, but with a minute left our D could not get to the qb and they through a long pass to set up the winning field goal. Our D gave up several 4th quarter leads, so even if it was the 4th ranked, it was not a championship quality D.
Hopefully, AH/Orakpo and a healthy Daniels, will change the dynamic and the 4th quarter leads won't evaporate this year. (also hopefully they will be bigger, and we will score over 30 a couple times). My friends remember, the offseason is all about hope.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Any one remember the St. Louis game, (i do as it was the only one i was able to go to...) our offense may not have impressed, but with a minute left our D could not get to the qb and they through a long pass to set up the winning field goal. Our D gave up several 4th quarter leads, so even if it was the 4th ranked, it was not a championship quality D.
Hopefully, AH/Orakpo and a healthy Daniels, will change the dynamic and the 4th quarter leads won't evaporate this year. (also hopefully they will be bigger, and we will score over 30 a couple times). My friends remember, the offseason is all about hope.

I remember us losing 19-17 and the offense turned a chip shot field goal or possibly a touchdown into 7 for them.

There is no way the St. Louis game falls on the defense.

How much of the losing 4th quarter leads falls on a D that never had a cushion. Your team could be up 13-10 into the 4th and then you give up a score. So you lose 17-13 because God knows your offense cannot answer. That is an indictment on the defense?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I remember us losing 19-17 and the offense turned a chip shot field goal or possibly a touchdown into 7 for them.

There is no way the St. Louis game falls on the defense.

Whenever you take the lead with 1 minute to go, and you lose, it falls on the defense. I don't care what went before, at the 2 minute warning, if you have the lead, a CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE stops the opponent (um especially one with a new head coach and no wins at that time!)

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Whenever you take the lead with 1 minute to go, and you lose, it falls on the defense. I don't care what went before, at the 2 minute warning, if you have the lead, a CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE stops the opponent (um especially one with a new head coach and no wins at that time!)

I don't think anyone thought we had a CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE (whatever that is). We had an above average playoff calibre defense and a mickey mouse offense. That is why we were 8-8.

Now that I think about it, didn't part time Superhero L. Torrence give up the catch that set up the field goal?

Blache turned chicken s--- into chicken salad last year.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I don't think anyone thought we had a CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE (whatever that is). We had an above average playoff calibre defense and a mickey mouse offense. That is why we were 8-8.

Now that I think about it, didn't part time Superhero L. Torrence give up the catch that set up the field goal?

Blache turned chicken s--- into chicken salad last year.

I would then change my sentence to read an above average playoff caliber defense, should hold a no win team to 0 points with one minute to go.

Yes Torrence gave that catch up, but at the time the pass rush was blamed because their qb should have been sitting facedown eating turf. But we had NO pass rush.

How do you say Blache started with chicken s***? We had the number 8 ranked D the previous year. Not really chicken s***.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would then change my sentence to read an above average playoff caliber defense, should hold a no win team to 0 points with one minute to go.

Yes Torrence gave that catch up, but at the time the pass rush was blamed because their qb should have been sitting facedown eating turf. But we had NO pass rush.

How do you say Blache started with chicken s***? We had the number 8 ranked D the previous year. Not really chicken s***.

Well are they good or not? No pass rush usually means a bad defense. Springs never played and their only all-pro was murdered. Their best corner scratched his ear with his cleats against New England the year before and was covering people on a new knee. Their weak side linebacker was on a new knee and faded down the stretch yet at the end of the year they were able to hold Philly (one of the best offenses in the league in the middle of another NFC Championship game season) to 3 points.

I would say that Blache did an excellent job with fairly little.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Well are they good or not? No pass rush usually means a bad defense. Springs never played and their only all-pro was murdered. Their best corner scratched his ear with his cleats against New England the year before and was covering people on a new knee. Their weak side linebacker was on a new knee and faded down the stretch yet at the end of the year they were able to hold Philly (one of the best offenses in the league in the middle of another NFC Championship game season) to 3 points.

I would say that Blache did an excellent job with fairly little.

What I am saying is that our D while good, had some issues. Not quite sure what your problem about that is. The phrase "4th ranked defense" is often used here, and I think it is fair to point out the fact that there were several games where the offense, as lackluster as it was got the lead in the 4th quarter, and the defense lost it. To say that the every loss was on the offense, which is what you seem to be arguing, ignores several very strong 4th quarters from the offense, or the fact that in Dallas and Baltimore games, the offense was trying to get into the game, and our 4th quarter defense gave up 8-10 minute time of possessions.
I think Blache had the players he wanted, he basically set Rodgers on the shelf, a very bad decision to me. He blitzed like a mad man, even when it was shown as ineffective. Hopefully AH/Orakpo will make those blitzes less frequent and more effective.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I don't think anyone thought we had a CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE (whatever that is). We had an above average playoff calibre defense and a mickey mouse offense. That is why we were 8-8.

Now that I think about it, didn't part time Superhero L. Torrence give up the catch that set up the field goal?

Blache turned chicken s--- into chicken salad last year.

Every cornerback in the league has given up a pass like that.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Every cornerback in the league has given up a pass like that.

And mediocre corners like Torrence give up more than most.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

And mediocre corners like Torrence give up more than most.

He was not bad in nickel and dime packages

[an23dy]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Whenever you take the lead with 1 minute to go, and you lose, it falls on the defense. I don't care what went before, at the 2 minute warning, if you have the lead, a CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE stops the opponent (um especially one with a new head coach and no wins at that time!)

That happened to Baltimore against Tennessee, but I wouldn't say they didn't have a championship defense, and Tennessee's offense is by no means a powerhouse. Stuff happens.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Whenever you take the lead with 1 minute to go, and you lose, it falls on the defense. I don't care what went before, at the 2 minute warning, if you have the lead, a CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE stops the opponent (um especially one with a new head coach and no wins at that time!)

i agree with that 100% CRedskinsrule. You understand the game of football that a Championship defense will find a way to preserve the win in the final minutes with the lead. Last year our defense was good but not a Championship defense.