Name your all time starting QB, RB, TE, and 2 WRS and why...

[davy]

QB - Montana (partly because of chemistry with you know who)
RB - Payton (sticking to guys I saw play)
WR - Rice (obvious)
WR - Monk (the whole package)
TE - Gonzalez (almost went for Newsome but seen more of Gonzo)


Just to be contrarian, guys I definitely wouldn't want...

QB- Elway
RB - Sanders
WR - Moss
WR - Owens
TE - Bavaro

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by davy

Just to be contrarian, guys I definitely wouldn't want...

QB- Elway
RB - Sanders
WR - Moss
WR - Owens
TE - Bavaro

LOL................and I wouldn't want Beckham(sp) on my team.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by davy

Just to be contrarian, guys I definitely wouldn't want...

QB- Elway
RB - Sanders
WR - Moss
WR - Owens
TE - Bavaro

I actually agree with Elway, hes overrated in my opinion. I also agree with Owens due purely to his off the field issues, and Bavaro..well, just cause he's a giant! But Sanders??? Moss???? (unless you're talking about Santana, cause Randy is a freak of nature)

[davy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I actually agree with Elway, hes overrated in my opinion. I also agree with Owens due purely to his off the field issues, and Bavaro..well, just cause he's a giant! But Sanders??? Moss???? (unless you're talking about Santana, cause Randy is a freak of nature)

You got my reasons for not wanting Elway, Owens and Bavaro spot on.

Randy Moss is excluded because, although he has immense talent I want a guy who plays hard every down.

Barry Sanders was much the same, incredible talent but only made full use of it for one season.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by davy

You got my reasons for not wanting Elway, Owens and Bavaro spot on.

Gotcha

Randy Moss is excluded because, although he has immense talent I want a guy who plays hard every down.

Totally understand, I chose the guys I did because they are stand up class acts...Moss doesn't fit that bill.

Barry Sanders was much the same, incredible talent but only made full use of it for one season.

This is where I am not understanding at all. How did he only make full use of his talent for 1 season?
This is a guy that led the league in rushing 4 times! His career low in rushing was 1115 and that was in only 11 games! His 2nd career low was 1304, and he led the league with that! He led the league in TDs 2 years! Had 10 or more TDs in a season 7 times! He played 10 years and had 109 tds! Thats an average of almost 11 a season. He's had over 1500 yards rushing 5 times! Over 1800 2 times! Of course over 2000 1 time! Not to mention the fact that he was amazingly classy! So I am totally failing to see your point here.
Barry Sanders Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

[davy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Gotcha



Totally understand, I chose the guys I did because they are stand up class acts...Moss doesn't fit that bill.



This is where I am not understanding at all. How did he only make full use of his talent for 1 season?
This is a guy that led the league in rushing 4 times! His career low in rushing was 1115 and that was in only 11 games! His 2nd career low was 1304, and he led the league with that! He led the league in TDs 2 years! Had 10 or more TDs in a season 7 times! He played 10 years and had 109 tds! Thats an average of almost 11 a season. He's had over 1500 yards rushing 5 times! Over 1800 2 times! Of course over 2000 1 time! Not to mention the fact that he was amazingly classy! So I am totally failing to see your point here.
Barry Sanders Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

In the cold light of day, looking at those stats, I admit it's very hard for me to justify my dislike of Sanders.

My only defence would be that I always got the impression watching him that he could have put up even more impressive numbers. Too much dancing in the backfield and a little lack of aggression.

The exception for me was 1997 when he really attacked the LOS more than previously. If I remember correctly, that was Bobby Ross's first year as head coach. The two are probably connected.

Originally Posted by davy

My only defence would be that I always got the impression watching him that he could have put up even more impressive numbers. Too much dancing in the backfield and a little lack of aggression.

He did dance around too much and at times it may of cost his team games but there was a sweet science to what Barry Sanders did on the field. He wasnt afraid to take a 5 yard loss to break a 80 yard TD. The dancing around was what made Barry Sanders such a insane player. I use to think the same things about the way he danced behind the LOS but there was a reason behind his madness. Top defenses could shut him down at times but the thing that made Barry Sanders special was how he could be shutdown all game but then one defender makes a mistake and Sanders takes it to the house 80 yards. As a defense you had to play mistake free football for 60 minutes and because of that Sanders made those Lions teams alot better then they really were.