Redskins Win In Appeals Court

[bigm29]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.

Same applies to the N word. who really cares... get over it

Originally Posted by bigm29

Same applies to the N word. who really cares... get over it

Thats kinda the problem. Just like the N word is a racist remark towards blacks the word Redskin is a racist remark towards Indians. If you were a Indian living in Washington DC are you telling me you wouldnt be offended at Redskin fans wearing t-shirts and caps that say Redskins? It would be like a Africian-American living in DC and seeing the N word on t-shirts and hats.

Now when I say this im just giving a different point of view. I know Redskin fans respect and honor Indians. We all wear our Burgundy & Gold in pride. Im happy we won another case that lets us keep the name Redskins, logo, etc. Im just giving a different point of view from the other side. If I was a Indian I would probably be offended in todays society seeing the word Redskins as a team of a US Pro Football Franchise.

I know not all Indians care about the name but I can understand the other point of view of the Indians that do.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Thats kinda the problem. Just like the N word is a racist remark towards blacks the word Redskin is a racist remark towards Indians. If you were a Indian living in Washington DC are you telling me you wouldnt be offended at Redskin fans wearing t-shirts and caps that say Redskins? It would be like a Africian-American living in DC and seeing the N word on t-shirts and hats.

I know not all Indians care about the name but I can understand the other point of view of the Indians that do.

The Redskins are a private entity. Things don't have to change just because it offends some people. If the Redskins were a government body then by all means have at it and change anything you like to suit everybody.

Being a private company the Redskins aren't obligated to please every person. It's obviously is not hurting them financially because FedEx is sold out until 3026.

If the American Indians have such a problem with the name then please don't give the Redskins any patronage, including bringing attention to the team with various lawsuits.

The word "Redskin" only gets said more when your lawsuits are broadcast on national television.

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

The Redskins are a private entity. Things don't have to change just because it offends some people. If the Redskins were a government body then by all means have at it and change anything you like to suit everybody.

Being a private company the Redskins aren't obligated to please every person. It's obviously is not hurting them financially because FedEx is sold out until 3026.

If the American Indians have such a problem with the name then please don't give the Redskins any patronage, including bringing attention to the team with various lawsuits.

The word "Redskin" only gets said more when your lawsuits are broadcast on national television.

Yeah I can see your point. I think both sides have valid points. The Redskins havent done anything that would be considered racist since GPM owned the team. The Redskins organization honors Indians imo and means no disrespect. On the other hand I do see what Indians are saying about the team name, logo, etc.

[Giantone]

Did changing the name from the Bullits to the Wizards hurt the team?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Did changing the name from the Bullits to the Wizards hurt the team?

Not sure. You would have to ask the owner if there was any revinue lost from changing the name and colors. I prefered the "Bullets" name and colors more. I have not purchased anything Wizards related.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Did changing the name from the Bullits to the Wizards hurt the team?

Well they weren't named the Bullits, but you have to understand that pro basketball is not the number one team in the DC area. Is like if they changed the name of the NY Rangers vs. changing the name of the Yankees. I'm sure some people cared, but changing the name of the Bullets/Wizards won't have the same reaction as changing the name of the Redskins.

Pesonally, I thought changing the name of Bullets was ridiculous, as I don't think changing the name made any difference in the crime that happens in DC.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well they weren't named the Bullits, but you have to understand that pro basketball is not the number one team in the DC area. Is like if they changed the name of the NY Rangers vs. changing the name of the Yankees. I'm sure some people cared, but changing the name of the Bullets/Wizards won't have the same reaction as changing the name of the Redskins.

Pesonally, I thought changing the name of Bullets was ridiculous, as I don't think changing the name made any difference in the crime that happens in DC.

That was just an excuse the owner used to be able to change the name. Crime stayed the same. The only difference was perhaps because the colors were mostly red and white the owner saw gang members purchasing the products, but thats no different then the NY Yankees making hats in different colors to accomodate those individuals. Or how about all the other teams that have gang members using their logos.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well they weren't named the Bullits, but you have to understand that pro basketball is not the number one team in the DC area. Is like if they changed the name of the NY Rangers vs. changing the name of the Yankees. I'm sure some people cared, but changing the name of the Bullets/Wizards won't have the same reaction as changing the name of the Redskins.

Pesonally, I thought changing the name of Bullets was ridiculous, as I don't think changing the name made any difference in the crime that happens in DC.

So did I, I'm not a big basketball guy and I was really just asking , I don't know if it did or it did'nt.
MPO.....I think these groups are reaching ,but times change what wasn't offensive in the 30's and 40'..is now,we must be politicly correct.Thing is as a young kid I did study Indian folklore and there is some truth to what they say.
Should the team and Dan Snyder be held responsable for thing that happen a long time ago ....no but in todays world well ya just never know.

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Pesonally, I thought changing the name of Bullets was ridiculous, as I don't think changing the name made any difference in the crime that happens in DC.

I never understood the name change. The reasons around the change were weak imo. Just like the Wizards name and logo since the change.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

The Redskins are a private entity. Things don't have to change just because it offends some people. If the Redskins were a government body then by all means have at it and change anything you like to suit everybody.

Being a private company the Redskins aren't obligated to please every person. It's obviously is not hurting them financially because FedEx is sold out until 3026.

If the American Indians have such a problem with the name then please don't give the Redskins any patronage, including bringing attention to the team with various lawsuits.

The word "Redskin" only gets said more when your lawsuits are broadcast on national television.

There is a law about using trade names that are offensive and thats what they are going after. The law says something like if a trade name is offensive then they will not approve and protect the trade name. So if they win that battle then anyone could use the Redskins name as it would no longer be protected by the goverment. So even if the skins lost the case Dan could still use the name and logo stuff but that would not be smart because so could anyone else who want to sell skins stuff.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

There is a law about using trade names that are offensive and thats what they are going after. The law says something like if a trade name is offensive then they will not approve and protect the trade name. So if they win that battle then anyone could use the Redskins name as it would no longer be protected by the goverment. So even if the skins lost the case Dan could still use the name and logo stuff but that would not be smart because so could anyone else who want to sell skins stuff.

How about "Dirty Dicks" crabs firstdown?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

How about "Dirty Dicks" crabs firstdown?

I don't think he has that filed as a registered trade name or are you asking me if I have been there? Yes I have been to dirty dicks.

[backrow]

Originally Posted by firstdown

There is a law about using trade names that are offensive and thats what they are going after. The law says something like if a trade name is offensive then they will not approve and protect the trade name. So if they win that battle then anyone could use the Redskins name as it would no longer be protected by the goverment. So even if the skins lost the case Dan could still use the name and logo stuff but that would not be smart because so could anyone else who want to sell skins stuff.

Makes you wonder how Supreme Court nominee, Sonia Sotomayor, or for that matter, any current standing Supreme Court judge would rule on the Proud, traditional name of the Redskins! Especially since she has some history with sports rulings:

Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor well known in sports world - MLB - SI.com

I wonder what the final outcome would be.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Thats kinda the problem. Just like the N word is a racist remark towards blacks the word Redskin is a racist remark towards Indians. If you were a Indian living in Washington DC are you telling me you wouldnt be offended at Redskin fans wearing t-shirts and caps that say Redskins? It would be like a Africian-American living in DC and seeing the N word on t-shirts and hats.

Now when I say this im just giving a different point of view. I know Redskin fans respect and honor Indians. We all wear our Burgundy & Gold in pride. Im happy we won another case that lets us keep the name Redskins, logo, etc. Im just giving a different point of view from the other side. If I was a Indian I would probably be offended in todays society seeing the word Redskins as a team of a US Pro Football Franchise.

I know not all Indians care about the name but I can understand the other point of view of the Indians that do.

To be quite honest with you I live in the outskirts and see "African Americans" as you put it walking around with T-shirts with the "N" word on it. Frankly what upsets me more is the "African Americans" who walk around calling each other the "N" word. The word is either offensive or not offensive and either everyone can say it or no one should. Being white I take pride in telling those individuals that the word offends me and to please stop using it.