republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by saden1

Not me, I love seeing him out there though if I was given the opportunity to perform CPR on him in an emergency I would decline.

Further evidence of the absurd bipartisan divide in this country. You're basically saying you'd treat a fellow American - of an opposing view - just as you'd treat one of America's enemies.

That's ridiculous and makes me sad to have you as an American.

[Miller101]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Further evidence of the absurd bipartisan divide in this country. You're basically saying you'd treat a fellow American - of an opposing view - just as you'd treat one of America's enemies.

That's ridiculous and makes me sad to have you as an American.

Dude! We're talking about Richard Cheney! You know the same guy that tried to have a dude's wife killed! The same guy that shot a "friend" in the face and got the "friend" to apologize to him! The same guy that gives a no bid multi billion dollar contract to his company! The same guy that committed war crimes against his enemy!

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that the world is better off without him! And you can quote me on that!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Miller101

Dude! We're talking about Richard Cheney! You know the same guy that tried to have a dude's wife killed! The same guy that shot a "friend" in the face and got the "friend" to apologize to him! The same guy that gives a no bid multi billion dollar contract to his company! The same guy that committed war crimes against his enemy!

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that the world is better off without him! And you can quote me on that!

The face of the left shows its ugly head again and again.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Miller101

Dude! We're talking about Richard Cheney! You know the same guy that tried to have a dude's wife killed! The same guy that shot a "friend" in the face and got the "friend" to apologize to him! The same guy that gives a no bid multi billion dollar contract to his company! The same guy that committed war crimes against his enemy!

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that the world is better off without him! And you can quote me on that!

ignoring the rest of the diatribe, at least acknowledge the fact that they were enemies of OUR country

[saden1]

I don't hate Cheney, I'm just completely dispassionate about his wellbeing knowing what he stands for and advocates. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting to give CPR to man who advocates for torture. If it will make you feel better I feel the same about world dictators who tortured people. Finally, what's truly sad is Americans with the Constitution in one hand and Dick Cheney's balls in the other and acting like it's a lovely day. I am not one of these Americans, and I don't wish to be that American, I hope you understand this and if you don't it's a problem you have to deal with. Is this all perfectly clear?

saden wouldn't personally harm Dick and Rushbo because he's a lover not a fighter, saden wouldn't act if they were dying because he just doesn't give a shit about them.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

saden wouldn't personally harm Dick and Rushbo because he's a lover not a fighter, saden wouldn't act if they were dying because he just doesn't give a shit about them.

saden posting in the third person is a ridiculous as some of his more recent posts concerning Rush and Cheney.

I really don't understand the venom/violent under(over)tones from some on the left towards people on the right who are vocal about their positions.

To Miller101's post: Clinton had some very shady business dealings, many believe Vince Foster's death was no "suicide", Clinton sent terror suspects to Egypt to be "interrogated" and you can be sure the Egyptians do FAR worse than waterboard. So would the world be better off without Clinton too?

How about debating politcal positions with facts/logic civilly and respecting other's opinions rather than using rhetorical half-truths/non-factual garbage and making statements about the other side being dead.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

saden posting in the third person is a ridiculous as some of his more recent posts concerning Rush and Cheney.

I really don't understand the venom/violent under(over)tones from some on the left towards people on the right who are vocal about their positions.

To Miller101's post: Clinton had some very shady business dealings, many believe Vince Foster's death was no "suicide", Clinton sent terror suspects to Egypt to be "interrogated" and you can be sure the Egyptians do FAR worse than waterboard. So would the world be better off without Clinton too?

How about debating politcal positions with facts/logic civilly and respecting other's opinions rather than using rhetorical half-truths/non-factual garbage and making statements about the other side being dead.

saden always appreciates and values your input. saden also thanks you for your service to our country.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

saden always appreciates and values your input. saden also thanks you for your service to our country.

I appreciate and value your input too. Can't we all just share some arugula salad

P.S. we won't invite Cheney or Rush

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by saden1

I don't hate Cheney, I'm just completely dispassionate about his wellbeing knowing what he stands for and advocates. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting to give CPR to man who advocates for torture. If it will make you feel better I feel the same about world dictators who tortured people. Finally, what's truly sad is Americans with the Constitution in one hand and Dick Cheney's balls in the other and acting like it's a lovely day. I am not one of these Americans, and I don't wish to be that American, I hope you understand this and if you don't it's a problem you have to deal with. Is this all perfectly clear?

saden wouldn't personally harm Dick and Rushbo because he's a lover not a fighter, saden wouldn't act if they were dying because he just doesn't give a shit about them.

So I guess if Bill Clinton needed CPR you wouldn't give it to him either? He sent prisoners to Egypt to be tortured even worse than they would be tortured here.

President Bill Clinton issues Presidential Decision Directive 39 (PDD-39), which authorizes the "extraordinary rendition," or transfer, of non-citizen prisoners to Egypt for interrogation and trial. Egypt is known to practice torture, and statements obtained by torture in Egypt have been put to use by U.S. intelligence agencies. Human rights activists have argued that this is often the whole point of extraordinary rendition--it allows U.S. intelligence agencies to have prisoners tortured without breaking U.S. anti-torture laws.

History of Torture in the United States - Timeline History of Torture in the United States
Extraordinary rendition by the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by saden1

Even towards Osama bin Laden? I'm sure you draw the line somewhere and it just so happens Rushbo and Cheney are on the wrong side of my line.

Go ahead and let Bin Laden die but you would let Cheney and Rush (two Americans) die because they have different beliefs than you?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by steveo395

So I guess if Bill Clinton needed CPR you wouldn't give it to him either? He sent prisoners to Egypt to be tortured even worse than they would be tortured here.

History of Torture in the United States - Timeline History of Torture in the United States
Extraordinary rendition by the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Go ahead and let Bin Laden die but you would let Cheney and Rush (two Americans) die because they have different beliefs than you?

You have me confused, I put human rights above politics. If Clinton personally knew these individuals were going to be tortured and authorized their rendition you best believe I would leave him as I found him. BTW, I would perform CPR on W and McCain. Well, with W I might just put my foot on his chest and simply do a pump motion...and hope for the best.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by saden1

You have me confused, I put human rights above politics. If Clinton personally knew these individuals were going to be tortured and authorized their rendition you best believe I would leave him as I found him. BTW, I would perform CPR on W and McCain. Well, with W I might just put my foot on his chest and simply do a pump motion...and hope for the best.

So we know the people sent there were tortured but you don't think the president of the Unites States knew?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

saden wouldn't personally harm Dick and Rushbo because he's a lover not a fighter, saden wouldn't act if they were dying because he just doesn't give a shit about them.

I hear that one of the first signs of mental disorder is referring to yourself in the third person.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Miller101

Dude! We're talking about Richard Cheney! You know the same guy that tried to have a dude's wife killed! The same guy that shot a "friend" in the face and got the "friend" to apologize to him! The same guy that gives a no bid multi billion dollar contract to his company! The same guy that committed war crimes against his enemy!

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that the world is better off without him! And you can quote me on that!

Yea Dude, I heard Cheney waterboarded the guy until he apologized to him. Who's wife did Cheney try to kill? You need to stop getting your news from democratsungerground.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Further evidence of the absurd bipartisan divide in this country. You're basically saying you'd treat a fellow American - of an opposing view - just as you'd treat one of America's enemies.

That's ridiculous and makes me sad to have you as an American.

maybe the most poetic post ever. while i do not agree with most of this past administrations policies, or the manner in which they carried them out, i do believe that they thought they were doing the right things. they just were flat out wrong, in alot of cases. but i do not wish bodily harm to anyone. but do not forget, that most of the far right is pro life. and with those lie a large amount that would sooner kill a doctor, or blow up an abortion clinic, to state their belief. so the hatred goes both ways

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

maybe the most poetic post ever. while i do not agree with most of this past administrations policies, or the manner in which they carried them out, i do believe that they thought they were doing the right things. they just were flat out wrong, in alot of cases. but i do not wish bodily harm to anyone. but do not forget, that most of the far right is pro life. and with those lie a large amount that would sooner kill a doctor, or blow up an abortion clinic, to state their belief. so the hatred goes both ways

Oh come on with the shooting and blowing up clinics. Every side has a radical fring but to say the pro life movement is full of these people is just crazy. When was the last time that even happened?