What is Portis' Motivation for This?

SmootSmack · 06-22-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

My 2 cents, yeah CP can be a pain in the ass. It would be stupid to deny such at this point. But in the end the guy does go balls out on game day. Nobody can dispute that.

25 years ago, you could say the same exact thing about John Riggins. So he should be the last one to make any comments regarding Portis. It's like Danny Ferry, in his role as GM of the Cleveland Cavaliers, raising a stink about a draft pick holding out or a player refusing to honor a contract

MTK · 06-22-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

25 years ago, you could say the same exact thing about John Riggins. So he should be the last one to make any comments regarding Portis. It's like Danny Ferry, in his role as GM of the Cleveland Cavaliers, raising a stink about a draft pick holding out or a player refusing to honor a contract

Yeah I definitely think it's hilarious that Riggo has called out CP for basically the same behavior he was infamous for.

irish · 06-22-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

25 years ago, you could say the same exact thing about John Riggins. So he should be the last one to make any comments regarding Portis. It's like Danny Ferry, in his role as GM of the Cleveland Cavaliers, raising a stink about a draft pick holding out or a player refusing to honor a contract

The difference is Riggo actually won something.

Rajmahal33 · 06-22-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

The difference is Riggo actually won something.

Along with one of the best offensive lines in NFL history, a hall of fame WR, a hall of fame CB, one of the best pairs of defensive ends in NFL history, and a Hall of fame coach in his prime and not bound by the current salary cap era player movements...

Rajmahal33 · 06-22-2009, 11:11 AM

Furthermore, when it comes to being juvenile and hurting the team, riggo is no saint. He sat out an entire season b/c the skins didn't renegotiate his contract. After Gibbs went out and convinced him to come back along with the Player's Association rep, he showed no remorse. He simply said "I'm bored, I'm broke, and I'm back."

If that doesn't scream out selfish and ego-centric, i don't know what does...

warriorzpath · 06-22-2009, 11:23 AM

I'm telling it's happening more and more these days. There's more and more hype, buzz and bullsh*t that you have to sift through to get to the truth and what's real. And that's not only in football, but in news and media overall (and even through people spreading rumors in regular conversation). But since football (and sports & entertainment) get a lot of attention, it tends to happen alot in football.

That's my social commentary for today and now I can get off of my soapbox.

sportscurmudgeon · 06-22-2009, 12:01 PM

Couple of points here:

OK, so John Riggins was not the ideal teammate except on Sundays. That makes him a tad hypocritical when he criticizes Clinton Portis. But, does it make him wrong? Even though you are paranoid someone may be out to get you. Even though he is a hypocrite, he may be absolutely correct...

PFT signed a deal with NBC recently that carried enough money with it so that Mike Florio can quit his "day job" as a labor lawyer. That's right; he's an attorney and the deal he signed with NBC is big enough that he can "retire" from that job and forego that income. Somebody somewhere must think he knows what he is doing...

warriorzpath · 06-22-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Couple of points here:

OK, so John Riggins was not the ideal teammate except on Sundays. That makes him a tad hypocritical when he criticizes Clinton Portis. But, does it make him wrong? Even though you are paranoid someone may be out to get you. Even though he is a hypocrite, he may be absolutely correct...

PFT signed a deal with NBC recently that carried enough money with it so that Mike Florio can quit his "day job" as a labor lawyer. That's right; he's an attorney and the deal he signed with NBC is big enough that he can "retire" from that job and forego that income. Somebody somewhere must think he knows what he is doing...

I think both points lead to a lack of credibility. Riggins being a hypocritical former pain-in-the-ass player and Florio being a lying (soon-to-be) former lawyer.

SmootSmack · 06-22-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Couple of points here:

OK, so John Riggins was not the ideal teammate except on Sundays. That makes him a tad hypocritical when he criticizes Clinton Portis. But, does it make him wrong? Even though you are paranoid someone may be out to get you. Even though he is a hypocrite, he may be absolutely correct...

PFT signed a deal with NBC recently that carried enough money with it so that Mike Florio can quit his "day job" as a labor lawyer. That's right; he's an attorney and the deal he signed with NBC is big enough that he can "retire" from that job and forego that income. Somebody somewhere must think he knows what he is doing...

NBC didn't buy PFT, just to be clear. In case anyone thinks that. So I'm not sure that Florio is necessarily quitting his "day job" because he's got bundles of cash coming his way from this agreement.

warriorzpath · 06-22-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

NBC didn't buy PFT, just to be clear. In case anyone thinks that. So I'm not sure that Florio is necessarily quitting his "day job" because he's got bundles of cash coming his way from this agreement.

Either way, see what I'm saying about sifting through the BS before taking anything you read or hear as truth.

JoeRedskin · 06-22-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

PFT signed a deal with NBC recently that carried enough money with it so that Mike Florio can quit his "day job" as a labor lawyer. That's right; he's an attorney and the deal he signed with NBC is big enough that he can "retire" from that job and forego that income. Somebody somewhere must think he knows what he is doing...

Yes, they do - NBC thinks that Florio knows how to get eyeballs on his site by walking the fine line between pure BS and some truth when it comes to feeding the ravenous information hunger of football fans. Does that mean they think he knows football? Doubt it... Since when has knowledge been a prerequisite for entertainment value?

SmootSmack · 06-22-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

The difference is Riggo actually won something.

What did he win when he sat out an entire season? Had he won anything then?

irish · 06-22-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What did he win when he sat out an entire season? Had he won anything then?

The bottom line is Riggo is a super bowl champion, hall of famer and the guy who made maybe the biggest play in Redskin history. CP has played in 4 playoff games with a grand total of 214 yds and 0 TDs. I have no problem with Riggo being critical of CP.

SmootSmack · 06-22-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

The bottom line is Riggo is a super bowl champion, hall of famer and the guy who made maybe the biggest play in Redskin history. CP has played in 4 playoff games with a grand total of 214 yds and 0 TDs. I have no problem with Riggo being critical of CP.

Thanks for not answering my question, wouldn't have expected you to

skinsfan69 · 06-22-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

25 years ago, you could say the same exact thing about John Riggins. So he should be the last one to make any comments regarding Portis. It's like Danny Ferry, in his role as GM of the Cleveland Cavaliers, raising a stink about a draft pick holding out or a player refusing to honor a contract

I don't ever recall Riggins being disrespectful to coaches. A pain the ass sometimes? Yep. Not having any respect for authority? I don't ever remember that. Zorn is on a short leash and CP knows it.

06-22-2009, 11:11 AM	#5
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: What is Portis' Motivation for This? Furthermore, when it comes to being juvenile and hurting the team, riggo is no saint. He sat out an entire season b/c the skins didn't renegotiate his contract. After Gibbs went out and convinced him to come back along with the Player's Association rep, he showed no remorse. He simply said "I'm bored, I'm broke, and I'm back." If that doesn't scream out selfish and ego-centric, i don't know what does... __________________ McNasty FTW!

06-22-2009, 11:23 AM	#6
warriorzpath Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,880	Re: What is Portis' Motivation for This? I'm telling it's happening more and more these days. There's more and more hype, buzz and bullsh*t that you have to sift through to get to the truth and what's real. And that's not only in football, but in news and media overall (and even through people spreading rumors in regular conversation). But since football (and sports & entertainment) get a lot of attention, it tends to happen alot in football. That's my social commentary for today and now I can get off of my soapbox.

06-22-2009, 12:01 PM	#7
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: What is Portis' Motivation for This? Couple of points here: OK, so John Riggins was not the ideal teammate except on Sundays. That makes him a tad hypocritical when he criticizes Clinton Portis. But, does it make him wrong? Even though you are paranoid someone may be out to get you. Even though he is a hypocrite, he may be absolutely correct... PFT signed a deal with NBC recently that carried enough money with it so that Mike Florio can quit his "day job" as a labor lawyer. That's right; he's an attorney and the deal he signed with NBC is big enough that he can "retire" from that job and forego that income. Somebody somewhere must think he knows what he is doing... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

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